OwlMR

2 hours ago, MAL said:

I didn't agree with this at the time you posted it, money will override anything with these people (Footballers by the way, i shouldn't have to put that, but just in case anybody wanted to think something else)

And i don't agree with this being used, just when it suits (Not by you by the way)

 

After Coventry racially abused a Stoke player in January 2022.

Casey Palmer signed for Coventry in June 2022.

Agree makes no difference to signings and to Bernard staying. Bernard signed a one year deal in the summer and as people said to use the club as a stepping stone. He made his mind up last summer he was coming for a year to get himself a better move.

Good luck to him, from what ive seen of him he will get a Championship club not much better than we've been since Rohl arrived. 

2 hours ago, Tewksbury said:

On a different note, no current senior international is going to stay on in L1.

Delgado may, but his age and hav8ng most of this year off has probably done for him anyway.

I'd expect Joey Phuthi to stay on.

Anyway enjoyable debate no harm wanting different things. 

Regardless of what some think we all want the same thing on the pitch survival and a team on the up. 

Things to do people to see, enjoy your days.

10 minutes ago, EBRA said:

And there you go! Your expectation of the owner is spend big if not go!

Loan players make more financial sense for a club teetering on the edge!

We have a few out contract that allows a rebuild and restructure on relegation. 

Ugbo, the striker we signed right at the start of window and then complained we had done bothering despite also securing a keeper right at the front!

In one the slowest window yet seen where clubs are looking at FFP RULES and hunkering down?

Ugbo as gone to club where we have 3 fellow French players in making him probably a far happier player. Our head of recruitment knew him from his Cardiff days. 

The player we went to get was a long term investment from Orlando not an immediate fix.

We’ve signed 3 players this year who could allow us to cash in for a few million.  The first half the year two those players were deemed awful by the anti Chansiri mob.

We are slowly adjusting things do not happen overnight unless bought by a Saudi esk cash - and even then the rules mean it could be  boom and bust again if your not lucky. 

Don't expect to spend big expect to build year on year like we were before he came in.

We always have a few out of contract we have a rebuild every summer there's no long term plan at all. 

As for the Orlando player, we were never really in the running for him, if we were there would have been other strikers on our radar but we ended with a left back and winger. Surprising how it was the same day season tickets went on sale. 

I cant see how we are changing things. 

2 minutes ago, Andyben said:

@OwlMR do you know why West Brom are cheap.

They're fucked.

Lower gate receipts and commercial income than us but a wage bill 3x higher and no more parachute payments, plus the MSD debt closer to £30m now and repayable within a year.

So it may be £50/60m to buy them but you're gonna need £30-40m per year just not to go bust.

They arent cheap thats pretty much the going rate look at other recent sales. 

Can tell you don't like a different opinion, if you're happy going backwards so be it but many aren't.

3 minutes ago, Andyben said:

I'm not sure what your point is. @OwlMR

Do you think any of those cost us money? Mowbray wanted Poveda wbo's on a free in summer. Are you saying Ugbo and Beadle have made us worse?

Do you think DC should break FFP to buy players and pay daft wages so we get another, bigger points deduction, because it looks like you're saying he should repeat the mistakes of 2018-2020 which will out us on the brink.

Isn't it better to spend on getting quality younger players to improve us and have some resale value?

Or shall we go for Steve Bruce and Jordan Rhodes type set up becuse it's brilliant we paid £10m fr a player.

You really haven't thought this through have you.

Weve around £10m leeway with ffp as it stands so don't think thats in the question. 

They will have cost us a minimal amount yes some probably could have been covered by the wages saved on Gregory if he'd let him leave on loan. Which at 36 and helping us for 2 years and not in the managers plans he should have, but that's not him.

It's better to get young players to improve just we haven't really done that other than maybe one and we've given him a one year deal with no extension clause.

I've thought it through if your happy being a yoyo club between the second and third tier so be it but others want different. 

Were you not concerned when you got your hand written receipt for your season ticket you had to pay in  cash? 

9 minutes ago, Andyben said:

If DC didn't have the funds to support the club we would be insolvent.

Did you not notice who scored last night and who were the best three players on our team?

 

Never said he doesn't have the funds to support the club said he doesn't have the funds to take us forward or a plan for that matter

I did yes, a striker Cardiff didn't want, a winger that can't get near Leeds squad and an up and coming young keeper. All loan players that we most likely won't have next season, your point is?

When we once again have to try and sign 10 players to have a squad due to no long term planning.

1 minute ago, holmesfield_owl said:

You have zero knowledge of what available money DC does or doesn't have. It's the lies disguised as facts I keep seeing that I'm finding hard to swallow.

The fact we've barely paid a fee over the last 4 season and have one of the lowest wage bills in the league tells you everything you need to know surely? 

4 minutes ago, mkowl said:

The cards were held up until Hi Ho started, then folk realised you couldn't hold up a card and clap along. 

And I didn't see any other display attempted during the game.

Whether you agree or not, most fans simply want a club that is well run and the owner is appreciative of our contribution rather than mocking it

Exactly this and people claiming the protest effect the performance etc are talking bollocks. 

6 minutes ago, Andyben said:

Is it just £60m for West Brom? 

How much will it cost to make us a decent championship team over next few seasons? 

What about for a play off push or promotion?

How do you fund that with the EFL restrictions?

There's a massive difference between wanting a change on the field and thinking DC out is the answer.

 

Shows there are people out there, three interested parties in West Brom.

It's wanting both, while ever DC is in charge there will be no change on the field hes no long got the funds to support that. This season is an absolute shit show, the summer window was and January wasn't much better. We are going backwards fast becoming a yoyo side between champ and L1

3 minutes ago, Andyben said:

Terry. The atmosphere was absolutely shit post kick off until we scored. Utterly out sung by Brum why do you think that was

Probably because we'd not won in 6 

Just now, Andyben said:

What's a reasonable price 

Probably around 50m if West Brom is going for 60m.

Why do you continue back him if wanting change is so laughable? Happy with the way things are going? 

19 minutes ago, holmesfield_owl said:

And that response is why the pointless protest group has no credibility. No alternative plan, just sell up, like it's that easy 🤣

What do you do then just sit back and let him carry on? 

Fair play to people making their voices heard and letting him know its time for him to put the club up for sale at a reasonable price. Rather than us continue being the circus that we are.

20 minutes ago, Andyben said:

Doesn't merit a response other than 😂

Take it you've no response to someone with a differing opinion 👍🏻

27 minutes ago, Andyben said:

Looking at how they shut up and stopped when we scored I'd say we're exactly right.

Would be interested  to see what your proposal is other than Chansiri out. 

Who's going to buy the club, fund it to the tune of £8-10m per year just to stand still, and find another £25m per year to improve our squad.

We've got the third lowest wage bill in the division. As I said elsewhere Stoke are owned by a  family worth billions, have a wage budget of £30m (double ours)  yet have been lower half eacb season since they were relegated.  

Luton (one off few teams to get to PL that hadn't played there since parachute payments) had a wage bill of £28m to get up, so they weren't exactly a small club on that basis.

How would you attract the new buyer, who would you thinks wants to pay £200m+ over next 3-4 seasons to TRY and get to Prem, with all the  EFL restrictions. 

Cost of club/stadium. £80m

Current annual funding x4 £48m 

Ann. Increase in salaries x4 £70m

Ann. Transfer spend incl agents £60-80m

Lot of money that.

Whos gonna replaces DC and improve the club?

@SailsburyOwl

 Not for the fans to find the buyer, its about the club being put up for sale for its correct market value so the club can move forward. 

While ever Chansiri is there we are only going backwards. 

1 hour ago, Snap said:

Yep, anti Wednesday. How can any cxxx hold them posters up immediately prior to a game. Did you hold one up? Fuckin wankers.

Because they want change, because the owner of the club is taking in backwards. I wasn't there but I would have. I don't want to be a yoyo team between the championship and league one. Want to see us progress. Which won't happen while ever he's still here.

Sooner he's gone the better, at least more and more seem to be thinking the same. 

Anti Wednesday because they want better and change, pull the other one.

1 hour ago, Snap said:

I am so fxxxin relieved. Thanks Danny and all the players. Hope springs eternal. UTO

Oh, and for any of you anti Wednesday Cxxxs watching. You can shove your yellow posters up your fxxxin arse.

Anti Wednesday? 

Surely you can want a change of ownership but still support the team? 

Great win, good all round performance.

Sad news, RIP Beastie 🦉

Lovely well wrote tweet - 

1 hour ago, Reesh said:

He's changed it 

 

"but remains one of the oldest players to ever to play for the club – doing so aged 38 back in 1920"

Shame he didn't bother correcting his grammar while he was at it. To ever to play, to me to you to me 

He comes across really well. 

A friend of friend works at Bristol City and apparently the players are all really pissed off about Pearson being sacked it cam out of the blue and they all really liked him. It might be as good a time to play them as any.  

Sad News met him a few times 10+ years ago, thoughts with him and his family hopefully they can make some nice memories in time he has left. 

Great to hear Crann asking the important questions in the press conference - 

'Have you found anywhere to live yet?'

'There's lots of different languages in the squad, your English is very good do you speak any other language?'

19 hours ago, Tylluan said:

Powell has been back part of Southgate's staff since he got binned by Spurs. 

In the Italy game every time the camera panned to Southgate you could see him sitting on the bench directly behind. 

So if it is him then he must be looking to dual role and that might be why there's been a delay. 

He left England in March after the World Cup and was replaced by Jimmy Floyd him and Nevin were behind Southgate, his main reason was to focus on his role at Spurs which he ended up leaving in August so is currently not with a club.

2 hours ago, HoylandOwl said:

So. Who misses out in midfield for Momo then?

Bakinson. Vaulks, Diaby, Bannan.