Mark Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 17 minutes ago, Tylluan said: We needed a reserve centre half for the bench or pushing Palmer to go back out wide, especially as Ihiekwe looks to be out longer than expected and Famewo pulled up (with cramp?) Hence looking at Hector and asking about the kid from Celtic. A quicker centre forward is always nice to have but I don't know if one would actually fit into our current style of play. I also think we have forward players in the 21s who could step up if there's a crisis Agreed. I think we both mentioned Jebbison who at the time was hinted they would let him out on loan. Obviously unlikely to us, but his type would have been perfect. The lad will go onto bigger and better things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I think Jaden Brown is going to be the reserve centre half and we currently have 5 strikers fighting over 2 slots. Wilks has pace and isn't getting much of a sniff, even when he does he doesn't fit in with our style. The squad looks harmonious at the mo, they all look to be playing for each other. I'm normally on the grandstand, but we sat on the north last Saturday and we visibly noticed the appreciation between the players. I take the bird in the hand and if it doesn't work, I don't blame DM... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, Andyben said: Manager... Can't disagree with that but then who? Carbone seems to be lurking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 If we don’t lose to Plymouth, Ipswich and Barnsley. We’ll get promoted comfortably. The key isn’t necessarily the centre halves, it’s making sure that we keep the two B’s and Vaulks fit. Those three, with Adeniran in reserve will allow us to go back to dominating the ball, which against the rest of the division is more than enough. In fact, I’d simply say that if Byers, Bannan, Vaulks, Windass and Smith are fit. They play every game. I’m actually pleased we haven’t brought a body in for just the sake of it. We’ve got Flint, Palmer, Famewo, Iorfa, and James can’t be that far off. If we can always ensure three of them are fit, we’ll be fine. We can then let that midfield three run the show. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank_Owl2,0 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I’d feel happier with another defender to call upon. Flint is a good signing but I’m still concerned Famewo will not last the season and Iorfa is still is likely to pull a hamstring if he plays every game. Let’s hope James is back soon and Brennan can be called back in an emergency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamOwl Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Brennan can’t be called back. You can only recall loans in a transfer window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank_Owl2,0 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 11 minutes ago, LiamOwl said: Brennan can’t be called back. You can only recall loans in a transfer window. Fair enough, thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Any free transfer options out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 10 hours ago, Otto_Man said: I think Jaden Brown is going to be the reserve centre half and we currently have 5 strikers fighting over 2 slots. Wilks has pace and isn't getting much of a sniff, even when he does he doesn't fit in with our style. The squad looks harmonious at the mo, they all look to be playing for each other. I'm normally on the grandstand, but we sat on the north last Saturday and we visibly noticed the appreciation between the players. I take the bird in the hand and if it doesn't work, I don't blame DM... The thought of this frightens the life out of me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelters Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I think Bakinson can do a job in a back 3, and if really needed Pato too. Plus there’s Agbontohoma if we’re looking at the youngsters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 11 hours ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: Any free transfer options out there? Timm Klose Sammy Ameobi Andre Wisdom Gaetan Bong All surely at a level to be able to contribute at League One level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Apparently Derby were back sniffing around Gregory, but we told them to do one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 20 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: Apparently Derby were back sniffing around Gregory, but we told them to do one. Probably more to unsettle as I think they can't pay fees. Thought they were also supposed to be under wage restrictions but they don't seem that hampered this season as I thought they would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelters Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 9 hours ago, Chelters said: I think Bakinson can do a job in a back 3, and if really needed Pato too. Plus there’s Agbontohoma if we’re looking at the youngsters. Maybe not. Agbontohoma has signed for Boreham Wood on a permanent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Makes you wonder why we bother with an academy. They either get released or leave for nowt when they run their contract down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted February 2 Author Share Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, Ozzie said: Makes you wonder why we bother with an academy. They either get released or leave for nowt when they run their contract down. He didn't come through the academy and how do you know he left for nowt... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 50 minutes ago, Reesh said: He didn't come through the academy and how do you know he left for nowt... I mean the fact he has joined Borehamwood suggests that is the level we consider he is good enough for. You enjoyed Borehamwood though even you cringed when I suggested Aziz looked like a terrorist when he grew a full on beard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, Chelters said: Maybe not. Agbontohoma has signed for Boreham Wood on a permanent. https://www.swfc.co.uk/news/2023/february/david-agbontohoma-leaves-owls/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, Reesh said: He didn't come through the academy and how do you know he left for nowt... Nowt as in nothing or minuscule amounts, either way I can't see Borehamwood laying out a big fee that gives us a decent return on what we've laid out for the lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted February 2 Author Share Posted February 2 13 minutes ago, Ozzie said: Nowt as in nothing or minuscule amounts, either way I can't see Borehamwood laying out a big fee that gives us a decent return on what we've laid out for the lad. What have we laid out for him? Next to fuck all is the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I'd not seen that but, having seen him throughout the Papa Johns' campaign - Leics apart - I'm not surprised he's trying his luck at their level. Good luck to him. Surely this business of trying our hand by bringing in young players released / available to sign from other clubs' academies is a bit like panning for gold. You have a dabble with various candidates and if it doesn't work out you thank them and wish them well. Then you try again as the rewards for success could be immense. You certainly don't moan when one - another one - doesn't 'bear fruit'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 5 minutes ago, Owling_Wolf said: I'd not seen that but, having seen him throughout the Papa Johns' campaign - Leics apart - I'm not surprised he's trying his luck at their level. Good luck to him. Surely this business of trying our hand by bringing in young players released / available to sign from other clubs' academies is a bit like panning for gold. You have a dabble with various candidates and if it doesn't work out you thank them and wish them well. Then you try again as the rewards for success could be immense. You certainly don't moan when one - another one - doesn't 'bear fruit'. When did we last bear fruit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 40 minutes ago, Reesh said: What have we laid out for him? Next to fuck all is the answer. Joined a few year ago, not like he'd been there since 8 yo. Stick in a first dibs clause and we're laughing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, Ozzie said: When did we last bear fruit? Forget 'last', think 'next'. That's the point of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 17 minutes ago, Dronowl66 said: I'm sick and tired about hearing about Plymouth away , yes Moore made a mistake but he has got a bloody lot right since then but still gets no credit . Take the shackles off ???????? sod that, second in League a game in hand is just fine in my book , blokes re built a shit show from day one and but for a points deduction would be doing it in a Division higher . His philosophy seems to be running right through every age group now and for once we are seeing kids coming through that other clubs are interested in , when's that happened in the last 20 years ? If he was called Albert Smith and his Grandad worked in a cutlery shop on Shalesmoor and he ( lets face it ) was a different colour he would have the freedom of Hillsbro by now .... boils my piss.... apologies for the rant I have these days now and again Fuck off. Don't dare bring fucking colour in to this. You fucking idiot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 3 minutes ago, Dronowl66 said: Charming its my opinion my dear old thing It's also bollocks, if this is the level of your contribution fuck off back to owlstalk. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 33 minutes ago, Dronowl66 said: I'm sick and tired about hearing about Plymouth away , yes Moore made a mistake but he has got a bloody lot right since then but still gets no credit . Take the shackles off ???????? sod that, second in League a game in hand is just fine in my book , blokes re built a shit show from day one and but for a points deduction would be doing it in a Division higher . His philosophy seems to be running right through every age group now and for once we are seeing kids coming through that other clubs are interested in , when's that happened in the last 20 years ? If he was called Albert Smith and his Grandad worked in a cutlery shop on Shalesmoor and he ( lets face it ) was a different colour he would have the freedom of Hillsbro by now .... boils my piss.... apologies for the rant I have these days now and again Colour isn’t a consideration. If players are good enough they’re good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 7 minutes ago, Dronowl66 said: Players absolutely no issue but some people have never had and will never have the Manager , anyway what he has done for this club deserves a great deal more recognition than he gets Oh eat shit. He's doing the minimum I'd expect on the budget he has. I don't care if he's white, black, pink or fucking orange, I care about his failure to keep us up and bottling going up last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCraigsOwl Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 46 minutes ago, Dronowl66 said: blokes re built a shit show from day one and but for a points deduction would be doing it in a Division higher That's not actually guaranteed. Wednesday were 3 points behind Derby. A win guaranteed safety. It didn't happen and we were relegated. Without the 6-point deduction, Wednesday would've been 3 points ahead going into the last match. Can you honestly say, hand on heart, that that bunch would've grabbed the necessary point to ensure safety? Or would Derby have collected the victory they so badly needed, sending us down in their place? Two different scenarios. Two completely different mindsets. And all pure speculation of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 Just now, Dronowl66 said: Eat shit ?? LMAO yes last season was a disappointment granted but the recruitment has been very good for this level and bar one mistake we were all over Sunderland , as for failing to keep us up a points deduction and inheriting poor players and a demoralised club from top to bottom was never going to be easy . His work at all levels will bring dividends in the future , I still maintain we have never had kids coming through like we do now You're a fucking moron. One mistake? It wasn't one mistake it was a reticence to attack in the first leg and his poor decision to bring a half fit Bannan back in the 2nd leg. Oh and the kids coming through have fuck all to do with him, that age group were around long before Moore was at the club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCraigsOwl Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 11 minutes ago, Dronowl66 said: True and let me be clear with the work he has done thus far and the squad he has at his disposal If he doesn't get us up this year its an abject failure and I wouldn't expect to see him here next year , This is the third time we've been in the third tier during my time following Wednesday. On both the previous two occasions, season 1 has been poor (to put it mildly), while season 2 has delivered promotion. I was disappointed last season, but contented myself that at least it was much improved on the previous 2 initial efforts. A strange logic, I accept, but otherwise I may have got angry. And I try not to let football do that to me. I decided years ago that whatever is going to happen will happen and I can't influence things. Therefore, when we lose, I never get too down. All fine and well of course, but it does mean I'm shite at crosswords. This season, I expect promotion, purely based on the past record. Again, probably a strange logic, but I'm sticking with it. Hopefully it works! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 hours ago, Dronowl66 said: I'm sick and tired about hearing about Plymouth away , yes Moore made a mistake but he has got a bloody lot right since then but still gets no credit . Take the shackles off ???????? sod that, second in League a game in hand is just fine in my book , blokes re built a shit show from day one and but for a points deduction would be doing it in a Division higher . His philosophy seems to be running right through every age group now and for once we are seeing kids coming through that other clubs are interested in , when's that happened in the last 20 years ? If he was called Albert Smith and his Grandad worked in a cutlery shop on Shalesmoor and he ( lets face it ) was a different colour he would have the freedom of Hillsbro by now .... boils my piss.... apologies for the rant I have these days now and again Fucking nobhead 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, Dronowl66 said: Players absolutely no issue but some people have never had and will never have the Manager , anyway what he has done for this club deserves a great deal more recognition than he gets The only matter in record that he's done for the club are get us relegated and fail in the play offs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ozzie Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dronowl66 said: I'm sick and tired about hearing about Plymouth away , yes Moore made a mistake but he has got a bloody lot right since then but still gets no credit . Take the shackles off ???????? sod that, second in League a game in hand is just fine in my book , blokes re built a shit show from day one and but for a points deduction would be doing it in a Division higher . His philosophy seems to be running right through every age group now and for once we are seeing kids coming through that other clubs are interested in , when's that happened in the last 20 years ? If he was called Albert Smith and his Grandad worked in a cutlery shop on Shalesmoor and he ( lets face it ) was a different colour he would have the freedom of Hillsbro by now .... boils my piss.... apologies for the rant I have these days now and again Absolute disgraceful comments. Darren Moore is a very likeable man but his reluctance to attack and defend 1-0s or 0-0s has cost us. Over thinks the opposition and tinkers about with the 11 far too often than he should. Can often get out thought by opposite managers and dithers around when he needs to be making substitutions. Fair play he's done well this season but he's been heavily backed and we have IMO the best squad in the division. The squad being assembled is a credit to Moore but he should be doing better with what he's got. What would Plymouth's boss be doing with this squad? To suggest anyone criticising Moore due to his colour is far off the mark and fucking disgusts me. I have a word for you.... C.U.N.T ! Edited February 3 by Ozzie 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 3 hours ago, Dronowl66 said: I'm sick and tired about hearing about Plymouth away , yes Moore made a mistake but he has got a bloody lot right since then but still gets no credit . Take the shackles off ???????? sod that, second in League a game in hand is just fine in my book , blokes re built a shit show from day one and but for a points deduction would be doing it in a Division higher . His philosophy seems to be running right through every age group now and for once we are seeing kids coming through that other clubs are interested in , when's that happened in the last 20 years ? If he was called Albert Smith and his Grandad worked in a cutlery shop on Shalesmoor and he ( lets face it ) was a different colour he would have the freedom of Hillsbro by now .... boils my piss.... apologies for the rant I have these days now and again Am definitely not having that 'race' comment. Never heard even the slightest hint of that towards him at any stage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delseeds Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 hours ago, EastCraigsOwl said: This is the third time we've been in the third tier during my time following Wednesday. On both the previous two occasions, season 1 has been poor (to put it mildly), while season 2 has delivered promotion. I was disappointed last season, but contented myself that at least it was much improved on the previous 2 initial efforts. A strange logic, I accept, but otherwise I may have got angry. And I try not to let football do that to me. I decided years ago that whatever is going to happen will happen and I can't influence things. Therefore, when we lose, I never get too down. All fine and well of course, but it does mean I'm shite at crosswords. This season, I expect promotion, purely based on the past record. Again, probably a strange logic, but I'm sticking with it. Hopefully it works! I wish that i didn't allow football to dictate my moods for the weekend but sadly its not possible. if we lose or have played shite I'm always going to be bitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyCraig Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 3 minutes ago, Dronowl66 said: I respect your right to an alternative opinion , saving the last sentence of course ,that does you no favours You've quite clearly heard thoughtful reasoning from numerous posters on this very thread as to why DM doesn't deserve the keys to the city. Are you saying they've formed these opinions because our manager is black? Utter nonsense. He'll get his keys when he brings success, consistently. Like how it should be. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyCraig Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 3 minutes ago, Dronowl66 said: No I gave an opinion that whatever Moore does there is a section of the fanbase that will never accept him , I dont think all of those people are racists far from it , but have seen on line evidence in the past of that happening , have read this site for a number of years am unsurprised by the thoughtful reasoning from the predictable accounts . To quantify that I have seen no racist insinuations on this site , it does however seem to have been received as such . I did also say there are no excuses for him this season Fair enough. It think you're wrong for suggesting it. There's enough actual racism to deal with rather than imagined racism. It's virtue signalling and its plain wrong and tiresome. The first half of last season, most supporters were leaving the ground shaking their heads trying to work out wtaf DM was trying to achieve, he made some very naive decisions regarding selection and tactics. We picked up certainly but he didn't manage to get us over the line. This season were on a really good run, he looks like he's learned a lot and has definitely brought back a togetherness that had been missing. I'm enjoying it very much tbh but we're not guaranteed to go up. That's why the jury's still out for some. We've historically been a very hard to please fan base, yes, even with paler skin managers. So, a good job but not job done. I can't fathom how your psyche has led you to racism. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 4 hours ago, Dronowl66 said: I'm sick and tired about hearing about Plymouth away , yes Moore made a mistake but he has got a bloody lot right since then but still gets no credit . Take the shackles off ???????? sod that, second in League a game in hand is just fine in my book , blokes re built a shit show from day one and but for a points deduction would be doing it in a Division higher . His philosophy seems to be running right through every age group now and for once we are seeing kids coming through that other clubs are interested in , when's that happened in the last 20 years ? If he was called Albert Smith and his Grandad worked in a cutlery shop on Shalesmoor and he ( lets face it ) was a different colour he would have the freedom of Hillsbro by now .... boils my piss.... apologies for the rant I have these days now and again Absolute nonsense re his colour, absolutely ridiculous. He's done well but like it or not for many the feeling that his tinkering and negative tactics at times will cost us remains. And for me with players he has there is no need to be like that . He had a go for 60 mins at Plymouth and we were excellent but then went into shell and if we're not careful that approach will catch up on us. Tomorrow result obviously important but not definitive. If we were to lose but went down swinging and play well I'll look at bigger picture. Obviously if play like **** and win, I'll take it😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 This new **** sounds like the Rev. But I guess he'd be called DroneOwl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, Dronowl66 said: I respect your right to an alternative opinion , saving the last sentence of course ,that does you no favours Plenty have told what they think and why yet still you insinuate the racism thing. Fucking deplorable! Monk was shit or was that a gingerism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 5 hours ago, Dronowl66 said: I'm sick and tired about hearing about Plymouth away , yes Moore made a mistake but he has got a bloody lot right since then but still gets no credit . Take the shackles off ???????? sod that, second in League a game in hand is just fine in my book , blokes re built a shit show from day one and but for a points deduction would be doing it in a Division higher . His philosophy seems to be running right through every age group now and for once we are seeing kids coming through that other clubs are interested in , when's that happened in the last 20 years ? If he was called Albert Smith and his Grandad worked in a cutlery shop on Shalesmoor and he ( lets face it ) was a different colour he would have the freedom of Hillsbro by now .... boils my piss.... apologies for the rant I have these days now and again 4 hours ago, Dronowl66 said: Players absolutely no issue but some people have never had and will never have the Manager , anyway what he has done for this club deserves a great deal more recognition than he gets 1 hour ago, Dronowl66 said: No I gave an opinion that whatever Moore does there is a section of the fanbase that will never accept him , I dont think all of those people are racists far from it , but have seen on line evidence in the past of that happening , have read this site for a number of years am unsurprised by the thoughtful reasoning from the predictable accounts . To quantify that I have seen no racist insinuations on this site , it does however seem to have been received as such . I did also say there are no excuses for him this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul from Wisewood Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 14 minutes ago, Ozzie said: Plenty have told what they think and why yet still you insinuate the racism thing. Fucking deplorable! Monk was shit or was that a gingerism? He was a shit ginger **** 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 1 minute ago, Paul from Wisewood said: He was a shit ginger **** That's an insult to *****, at least they can be useful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul from Wisewood Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 5 minutes ago, Reesh said: That's an insult to *****, at least they can be useful Sorry, he was a shit ginger bozeyed wankstain 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheat Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I think @Dronowl66 made some decent points that have got lost amidst the potential racist claim, which I think was clumsy at the very least. There might well be some who are anti him on those grounds, but I really hope that it’s a tiny minority; and it definitely does not apply to his detractors on here. We’re on an incredible run, but as pointed out there are still references made to the last game we lost. We’re unbeaten in 20 odd games, including two against top flight opposition and he gets very little credit. Every time we lose (or even draw) he’s been out thought by the opponent’s manager, every time we win it’s because we’ve got the best squad in the division. That narrative is just not fair. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville Facking Bartos Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Excellent post @cheat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBO Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Anybody using the term "out thought" regarding football is basically admitting they don't actually understand the game 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 9 minutes ago, JBO said: Anybody using the term "out thought" regarding football is basically admitting they don't actually understand the game Can we say he's been out manoeuvred by an opposition boss when their subs have won them the game, asking for a mate who doesn't understand the game (Bartos) 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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