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41 minutes ago, holmesfield_owl said:

I remember a Monday night I think in ldv (?), Carlisle away, wind blowing across the stand, was bloody freezing. Won 3-0 I think though most of what I've written could be bollocks

Was a Tuesday. Mark Robins debut, he scored twice.

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5 hours ago, HoylandOwl said:

I’ve never been as cold at a game of football as I was that night. Fucking horrendous, I even considered buying a pie just to try to warm my hands!

Is that when you first invested in the cardi with double pockets as a consequence? 

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Catch up part 3 - week ending 18th October 1992

Wednesday entertained Oldham in front of 24,485 with the return from injury for David Hirst meant we saw the Hirst/Bright partnership for the first time. They almost got off to the dream start with Bright turning in Hirst’s cross from close range, only for an offside flag to cut short the celebrations. It wasn’t long before Wednesday had the lead though with Palmer firing in off the post. It was all Wednesday and the strike pair linked up to make it 2-0, Hirst poking the ball through for Bright to hit home. Hirst himself came so close to scoring on his comeback as he saw his shot hit the inside of the post. Just before the break Oldham halved the deficit when Warhurst was adjudged to have fouled in the box. Woods kept the spot kick out, but couldn’t prevent the follow up being headed home. There was no further score in the second half, although Wednesday had to rely on a number of good saves from Woods late on as Oldham threatened to take an unlikely point.

Woods, Warhurst, Worthington, Palmer, Shirtliff, Anderson, Harkes, Waddle (Watson), Hirst (Wilson), Bart-Williams, Bright. Unused sub, Pressman.

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56 minutes ago, owl4ever1867 said:

Thanks for all this Cheat, great reading it all.

You’re welcome.

I enjoy doing it. Not sure I’ll be quite so keen in a few years time when the decline kicks in.

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Catch up part 4 - week ending 25th October 1992

In midweek Wednesday travelled to Germany to face Kaiserslautern in the first leg of the second round of the UEFA Cup. The night started well with David Hirst heading home a Chris Waddle cross to give Wednesday the lead after only five minutes. By the end of the night though the home side had turned it round to record a 3-1 win, on what was an incredibly frustrating and unjust night. Less than a minute after Hirst’s opener the host were awarded a penalty for a Viv Anderson challenge that not only appeared to win the ball, but be outside the box too. As half time approached the second injustice of the night occurred when Hirst was sent off for nothing as Marco Harber threw himself to the floor and French referee Joel Quiniou decided out number nine must have been guilty of something. Kaiserslautern made their numerical advantage count in the second half, scoring twice in as many minutes early in the half.

Woods, Harkes, Worthington, Palmer, Pearson, Anderson, Wilson, Waddle, Hirst, Warhurst (Watson), Hyde (Bart-Williams). Unused subs, Pressman, Sheridan, Williams.

Back to league action on Saturday and a trip to Middlesbrough. The game ended 1-1 with Wednesday probably a tad fortunate to come away with a point. Wednesday took the lead somewhat against the run of play when Bright capitalised on a defensive mistake. The lead only lasted five minutes before Paul Wilkinson (in my mind a perennial scorer against us) equalised from close range. Only a number of excellent stops from Woods kept Wednesday in it, although towards the end there was more than a good shout for a penalty when Waddle went down in the box.

Woods, Harkes, Worthington, Palmer, Pearson, Anderson, Hyde, Waddle, Bright, Bart-Williams, Warhurst (Watson). Unused subs, Pressman, Wilson.

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We went on the plane to the Kaiserslautern match.  Tango and his mates were sat not far behind us, winding up the stewardesses. One of them in particular, (he was telling her that it was her turn at forfeits and it was her "sussies" next), I caught her look and if she could have got away with murdering him and chucking his body out of the plane, she would have done.  

I was quite impressed, once we reached the ground, to find that you could buy draught beer from what had looked like a burger van parked right outside the stadium. Quite civilised, that.  

Just a correction: the 'penalty' challenge didn't look like it was outside the box. It WAS outside the box. Viv's challenge left an extremely obvious heel groove in the turf that halted where he pulled his leg back, a good yard outside the penalty area.  Also their player's ludicrous, pathetic dive into the box and multiple high speed rollovers was similar to the German player doing similar in order to get Gascoigne sent off at the 1990 World Cup.  The only difference was that this cheating get wasn't German. I really hated him. 

Regarding the sending off, I'm much less critical. The defender was stood closely behind Hirsty, presumably 'interacting' with him. Hirsty unwisely made to kick his heel backwards at him, not - in my opinion - making any contact with him, (or meaning to), but once spotted it gave the ref. a decision to make.  He did.  Unjust but why pretend in the first place?  

My final memory of the night was that we were not allowed to get off the coach at the French airport, (Strasbourg?), until just before our return flight was due. Not even just for a pee.  Obviously we were all hooligans.  🙄

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16 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said:

I didn’t have a passport….. gutted I couldn’t go to that or Luxembourg 

See I didn't have a passport before that season and had got one in anticipation of going to games. Spora I wasn't interested in, this one I passed on. Probably for the very mundane reason that I had to re-sit an exam, which I had to pay for and save holiday days as well. 

Saying that my purchase of the Sky box a few months earlier was worth it, as it was shown on Sat 1 one of the German channels. 

In the end we were fortunate to still be in the tie as it probably should have been a bigger defeat really.

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2 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said:

See I didn't have a passport before that season and had got one in anticipation of going to games. Spora I wasn't interested in, this one I passed on. Probably for the very mundane reason that I had to re-sit an exam, which I had to pay for and save holiday days as well. 

Saying that my purchase of the Sky box a few months earlier was worth it, as it was shown on Sat 1 one of the German channels. 

In the end we were fortunate to still be in the tie as it probably should have been a bigger defeat really.

Yeah I watched it on Sat1 at my mates house.

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The moral of that is really to seize the day. I think we presumed that being one of the best sides in the country at the time we would sweep past most. 

Not to be, sadly Kaiserslautern have dropped like a proverbial stone in the German pyramid as well. Fans who were there and the return tie would have laughed at that thought years later

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Just now, mkowlthesexynewversion said:

The moral of that is really to seize the day. I think we presumed that being one of the best sides in the country at the time we would sweep past most. 

Not to be, sadly Kaiserslautern have dropped like a proverbial stone in the German pyramid as well. Fans who were there and the return tie would have laughed at that thought years later

Sadly they’ve dropped? Nah, screw em. I’ve hated them ever since those games against us. Cheating twats.

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Went to Kaiserslautern by car. Got stopped by local Polizei and told to park in this large supermarket and get the bus in. Didn't realise they were police at first, due to their green car and uniforms. We thought they were the German AA or something. 

Absolutely fantastic atmosphere in and around the ground but found the town a bit of an industrial shithole. No problems until we found the buses weren't running back to the car park. About 20 Wednesday walking through town in roughly the right direction and avoiding the odd group of neo nazi skinheads that seemed to be looking for trouble with anyone. Got back to the car about 90 mins later, several wrong turns, and drove out to find a quieter spot to sleep. More green uniforms tapping on the window about 4am and told us there was an Etap about 5 miles down the road and it was that or a cell for vagrancy. 

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2 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said:

Sadly they’ve dropped? Nah, screw em. I’ve hated them ever since those games against us. Cheating twats.

I get that pov - probably felt the same 

It was more how similar the histories have been since then. 

Let's be honest we feel as fans that we are a bigger club simply in hibernation, but its 30 years now. Does anyone give a shit about us 

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14 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said:

I get that pov - probably felt the same 

It was more how similar the histories have been since then. 

Let's be honest we feel as fans that we are a bigger club simply in hibernation, but its 30 years now. Does anyone give a shit about us 

There are plenty that give a shit about us. You’ve only got to glance across the corners of South Yorkshire to see a world of jealousy from all the rest of the clubs. Ok, maybe less so across the city due to their current status. But… they’re still bitter. 
And, we’ll still be the most successful club in the county for some time yet. 

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24 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said:

There are plenty that give a shit about us. You’ve only got to glance across the corners of South Yorkshire to see a world of jealousy from all the rest of the clubs. Ok, maybe less so across the city due to their current status. But… they’re still bitter. 
And, we’ll still be the most successful club in the county for some time yet. 

Yep but that says more about Yorkshire, as long as we are better than that shite all is good

Whilst Bournemouth and Brentford are in the Premier League 

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1 hour ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said:

See I didn't have a passport before that season and had got one in anticipation of going to games. Spora I wasn't interested in, this one I passed on. Probably for the very mundane reason that I had to re-sit an exam, which I had to pay for and save holiday days as well. 

Saying that my purchase of the Sky box a few months earlier was worth it, as it was shown on Sat 1 one of the German channels. 

In the end we were fortunate to still be in the tie as it probably should have been a bigger defeat really.

Apart from the game changing penalty which was pure cheating, you mean. 

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1 hour ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said:

The moral of that is really to seize the day. I think we presumed that being one of the best sides in the country at the time we would sweep past most. 

Not to be, sadly Kaiserslautern have dropped like a proverbial stone in the German pyramid as well. Fans who were there and the return tie would have laughed at that thought years later

Sadly?  I'd happily dance on that club's grave. 

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24 minutes ago, Owling_Wolf said:

Sadly?  I'd happily dance on that club's grave. 

Well the Club itself did not cheat, a couple of their players maybe ?

Can you understand that many Liverpool fans may feel exactly the same way for obvious reasons. And that was actually due to the actions of employees at S6 at the time not the Club per se 

 

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45 minutes ago, Owling_Wolf said:

Sadly?  I'd happily dance on that club's grave. 

One of their defenders admitted the collusion with Austria at Spain WC 82.

Their matches were key in the match fixing scandal of the early 2000's

And the  referee Joel Quiniou admitted taking bribes from clubs when in UEFA and FIFA competition.

The krauts are infamous for this. Ask the scum up the M1

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4 hours ago, Andyben said:

And the  referee Joel Quiniou admitted taking bribes from clubs when in UEFA and FIFA competition.

 

Is that true? I’m struggling to find reference to that, although the fact that on your post it’s in a different font makes it look like you copied and pasted it from somewhere.

I was going to say on my post that there must have been a suggestion of foul play,  but then when I watched the extended highlights I thought it was just two rank bad decisions; there were other 50/50 decisions that he could have given either way that went ours. That said, maybe that’s the clever way you do it; and those two decisions are an also certain goal (well whatever the penalty conversion rate is - 75% or so?), and us down to ten men.

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16 hours ago, cheat said:

Is that true? I’m struggling to find reference to that, although the fact that on your post it’s in a different font makes it look like you copied and pasted it from somewhere.

I was going to say on my post that there must have been a suggestion of foul play,  but then when I watched the extended highlights I thought it was just two rank bad decisions; there were other 50/50 decisions that he could have given either way that went ours. That said, maybe that’s the clever way you do it; and those two decisions are an also certain goal (well whatever the penalty conversion rate is - 75% or so?), and us down to ten men.

Was Hirsty banned from the 2nd leg, too?

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Catch up part 5 - week ending 1st November 1992

It was midweek cup action again for Wednesday, this time in the 3rd round of the League Cup as Leicester visited Hillsborough. Wednesday put on a show for the 17,326 in attendance by handing out a 7-1 thrashing. Hirst and Worthington set things in motion with goals in the first half, but it was after the break that Wednesday went to town with doubles from Bright and substitute Watson, and an effort from fellow sun Bart-Williams.

Woods, Harkes, Worthington, Palmer, Pearson, Anderson, Wilson, Waddle, Hirst (Watson), Bright, Sheridan (Bart-Williams).

It was another home game on the Saturday as Wednesday welcomed Blackburn to S6. Our highest attendance of the season so far of 31,044 were denied any goals with the game ending 0-0. Wednesday were on top throughout the game and it was a bit of mystery how they failed to find the net, Hirst and Sheridan both went close twice, with Harkes and Waddle also testing the keeper.

Woods, Harkes, Worthington, Palmer, Pearson, Anderson, Wilson, Waddle, Hirst, Bright, Sheridan. Unused subs, Bart-Williams, Pressman, Watson.

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