Winco Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 Fuck em, prefer Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 6 minutes ago, Winco said: Fuck em, prefer Chelsea. The plot thickens... Chelsea rent boy, Chelsea rent boy woah woah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pook Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 An exhaustive list of things to like about West Ham United: 1) Upton Park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 3 minutes ago, pook said: An exhaustive list of things to like about West Ham United: 1) Upton Park 1) They aren't spurs 2) they don't hawk their stadium to NFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 3. Carlos Tevez 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winco Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 1 hour ago, Reesh said: The plot thickens... Chelsea rent boy, Chelsea rent boy woah woah 😂you know there’s a faction of us that know Chelsea lads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pook Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 27 minutes ago, Reesh said: 1) They aren't spurs 2) they don't hawk their stadium to NFL They can't. They don't own it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 14 minutes ago, Winco said: 😂you know there’s a faction of us that know Chelsea lads. I know pal, mi favver knows most of em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 6 hours ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: Not sure why you would. They had a poor season in the Premier League for sure, but if he gets you a trophy then must give you some leeway. Saying that one of my young uns mates is an Hammer and he said winning was a doubled edged sword if it meant keeping Moyes. However I always wonder where these miracle worker managers are lurking that would do better. While we all questioned Moore at times nobody was coming up with better suggestions really. I wouldn't, but you can tell the fans and board want a more glamorous manager, hence why they fucked him off for Pellegrini in the first place. He's also been a bit of a victim of his own success in so far as they were nudging towards the top 4 last 2 seasons and I think given they spent big in the summer most of their fans expected them to kick on, not be in a relegation fight. His signings have been fairly dreadful too, not sure any of them have actually worked out. Can't see many will trust him to buy well with the reported £100m+ they're expecting to net from the sale of Declan Rice. Let alone coping without him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billysboy Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 My only contribution to this thread is, Inter Milan, what a kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 (edited) De Bruyne off early again.? Edited June 10 by Andyben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Fingers crossed for Foden. Always thought he'd thrive in that more central position 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Lovely controlled finish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Really was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Ederson was outstanding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 2 minutes ago, Beaconowl said: Ederson was outstanding 2 or 3 great saves, but the header from Lukaku they're all gushing over was more luck than good judgement. The angled header to clear it (think it was Reuben Dias) was more impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 3 minutes ago, Otto_Man said: 2 or 3 great saves, but the header from Lukaku they're all gushing over was more luck than good judgement. The angled header to clear it (think it was Reuben Dias) was more impressive. Can’t argue with that last point, Otto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCraigsOwl Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 3 minutes ago, Beaconowl said: Ederson was outstanding The pretend goalkeeper is shockingly overrated but the last 5 or 10 minutes he more than did his job. The save from Lukaku was a brilliant fluke. In reality, the life of a goalkeeper is all about trying to put yourself in the right place and make your own luck. He certainly did that then. There was also a stop in the last seconds, which they haven't shown a replay of as yet. I look forward to seeing it again at some point. However, for me, the best bit was when he came out, leapt high and claimed the ball through a group of players. Exactly what you need from your number 1 at that moment in the game. A lovely goal to win the trophy and the treble. Very fitting. Just a shame the bloke who scored couldn't have been a tad more respectful when his country were comprehensively gubbed by Scotland a couple of months ago 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 (edited) ECO. Pissing on chips since 1987... 😂 Ederson is the best keeper in the world, bar none. Utterly consistent and never ever seems to 'get done' Gutted we won the play offs tbh.... Edited June 11 by Andyben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 13 hours ago, Andyben said: Fingers crossed for Foden. Always thought he'd thrive in that more central position Iniesta and Pirlo both played on the wing when young and moved inside. Shralecks saw this and did same with Giggs. Pep now has opportunity to do same with Foden. Southgate won't bother picking him, but what a central 3 Rice Bellingham and Foden could be with a proper England coach. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Almost felt sorry for the 'journos' in Pep's post match presser, got nowt to ask him about now Citeh have won the champions league. Interesting though where they go from here as a collective or is the motivation now the double treble? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 1 hour ago, Otto_Man said: Almost felt sorry for the 'journos' in Pep's post match presser, got nowt to ask him about now Citeh have won the champions league. Interesting though where they go from here as a collective or is the motivation now the double treble? I think they will now go from strength to strength, they will become relentless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Stones was quality last night in his 'new' role. It will be interesting to see if he stays there going forward. And still at CB for England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Unless pep is managing England and he plays same formation, he won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 3 hours ago, HoylandOwl said: Stones was quality last night in his 'new' role. It will be interesting to see if he stays there going forward. And still at CB for England. England surely need him at c.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 27 minutes ago, Owling_Wolf said: England surely need him at c.b. But how do you play him at centre half if he's been playing as a defensive mid for half a season and won every major club trophy, he could, playing there? Stick him in front of a back 3 or 4 and use Andyben's central 3 of Rice, Bellingham and Foden just in front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Do you think we have enough quality centre backs in decent enough form without playing him there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCraigsOwl Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 6 hours ago, Andyben said: Ederson is the best keeper in the world, bar none. Utterly consistent and never ever seems to 'get done' He really isn't. He's basically an outfield player with gloves. His passing and footwork is absolutely second to none but he loses too many easy goals and doesn't tend to make too many world class saves. Best in the world? He's not even the best in the Premier League, or even Brazil for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 47 minutes ago, EastCraigsOwl said: He really isn't. He's basically an outfield player with gloves. His passing and footwork is absolutely second to none but he loses too many easy goals and doesn't tend to make too many world class saves. Best in the world? He's not even the best in the Premier League, or even Brazil for that matter. He's far better than you are giving him credit for Name me 5 better keepers in the world? By the way good goalkeepers don't tend to have to make many world class saves as they are in position to make them look like standard saves. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCraigsOwl Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 1 hour ago, Reesh said: He's far better than you are giving him credit for Name me 5 better keepers in the world? By the way good goalkeepers don't tend to have to make many world class saves as they are in position to make them look like standard saves. I have to admit, I do find the overall standard of goalkeeping somewhat ordinary in the modern game. A number of coaches seem to be more fussed about playing out from the back and looking for an Ederson type between the sticks, one who's more adept at kicking than handing. I also admit I don't watch too much football beyond English and Scottish leagues, so not too many overseas based goalkeepers in the list. However, here are the results from the ECO jury: The fact I said Ederson's not the best in Brazil will tell you I rate Allison above him for starters. Excellent shot stopper, he can look a right beast at times, especially when he's sporting that stupid beard! Beyond that, Nick Pope is generally solid. I don't really care about his distribution. The main thing is to keep the ball out of the net. Emiliano Martinez has done very well for himself since his brief Wednesday days. I'm not a fan of his antics, or the timewasting, but he is very decent. As much as I think he's a hyper headcase a lot of the time, Jordan Pickford deserves a mention. Outstanding for England for a prolonged spell, and probably went a very long way to keeping Everton in the Premier League. Further afield, Thibaut Courtois (or is it Nowak Djokovic?) is still impressive and imposing. David de Gea does have a mistake or two in him but I would include him above Ederson. For a left field pick, how about Bernt Leno? Probably the best goalkeeper in the league this season. It will be interesting to see if he can continue that form into the future. I haven't included Manuel Neuer in my list, because he's a fair age now, and injured. I've no doubt there will be many others but, as I said, I don't watch enough football from varying countries to be able to confidently add to my starter list 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Was waiting to hear you say Anti Niemmi, but he's finished 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Brazil with Alisson and Ederson are currently experiencing what England had with Shilton and Clemence. Both could do the job and it's just a pity they both arrived at the same time. No English keeper gets anywhere near any World best top 5. If Pickford was that good he wouldn't still be playing for Everton. There's a case to be made that the best English keeper this season has been Ramsdale (and I hate myself for saying it) You watch Martinez week in week out and he can pull off the spectacular but most of the time he's bang average. Just watch him against Saudi Arabia. Raya at Brentford is better which is why Man Utd and Tottenham are sniffing round him and not Martinez or Pickford. Personally I think Donnarumma is up there, along with Alisson, Ederson, Maignan and Oblak. That's my top 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Allison is vastly overrated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 12 hours ago, EastCraigsOwl said: I have to admit, I do find the overall standard of goalkeeping somewhat ordinary in the modern game. A number of coaches seem to be more fussed about playing out from the back and looking for an Ederson type between the sticks, one who's more adept at kicking than handing. I also admit I don't watch too much football beyond English and Scottish leagues, so not too many overseas based goalkeepers in the list. However, here are the results from the ECO jury: The fact I said Ederson's not the best in Brazil will tell you I rate Allison above him for starters. Excellent shot stopper, he can look a right beast at times, especially when he's sporting that stupid beard! Beyond that, Nick Pope is generally solid. I don't really care about his distribution. The main thing is to keep the ball out of the net. Emiliano Martinez has done very well for himself since his brief Wednesday days. I'm not a fan of his antics, or the timewasting, but he is very decent. As much as I think he's a hyper headcase a lot of the time, Jordan Pickford deserves a mention. Outstanding for England for a prolonged spell, and probably went a very long way to keeping Everton in the Premier League. Further afield, Thibaut Courtois (or is it Nowak Djokovic?) is still impressive and imposing. David de Gea does have a mistake or two in him but I would include him above Ederson. For a left field pick, how about Bernt Leno? Probably the best goalkeeper in the league this season. It will be interesting to see if he can continue that form into the future. I haven't included Manuel Neuer in my list, because he's a fair age now, and injured. I've no doubt there will be many others but, as I said, I don't watch enough football from varying countries to be able to confidently add to my starter list 🙂 De Gea? Nah. Not any more. He’s got a rick or three in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCraigsOwl Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 13 hours ago, Andyben said: Was waiting to hear you say Anti Niemmi, but he's finished I never really rated Niemi during his time at Hearts. Rarely caught the ball and, way too often, would palm it out. Any goal poaching striker could quite easily score a hat trick against him but the quality in Scottish football meant those were few and far between. 9 hours ago, Tylluan said: Brazil with Alisson and Ederson are currently experiencing what England had with Shilton and Clemence. Both could do the job and it's just a pity they both arrived at the same time. No English keeper gets anywhere near any World best top 5. If Pickford was that good he wouldn't still be playing for Everton. There's a case to be made that the best English keeper this season has been Ramsdale (and I hate myself for saying it) You watch Martinez week in week out and he can pull off the spectacular but most of the time he's bang average. Just watch him against Saudi Arabia. Raya at Brentford is better which is why Man Utd and Tottenham are sniffing round him and not Martinez or Pickford. Personally I think Donnarumma is up there, along with Alisson, Ederson, Maignan and Oblak. That's my top 5. Funny you should mention Raya. I didn't think much of him a few years ago, although at least he doesn't get caught out so much nowadays and he does actually make some decent saves. Another who thinks he's Iniesta with gloves. Donnarumma looked very good in the Euros. I don't think I've seen him since, so I must have forgot about him! Oblak has been excellent any time I've watched him but, again, I haven't seen him for (probably) a year or so at least. Providing they're still as good as they were, both Donnarumma and Oblak would be well ahead of Ederson in my list. I'm ashamed to say I had to Google Maignan. I can't recall the last time I saw a Milan game and I can't say I've ever seen him in action. I hope he's better than the last 'highly rated' French goalkeeper - another shockingly overrated chap - Hugo Lloris. Never saw the hype around him at all. 1 hour ago, HoylandOwl said: De Gea? Nah. Not any more. He’s got a rick or three in him. I did mention that, and I also think he's on the way down. However, he is still capable of brilliance from time to time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vialli Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 On 10/06/2023 at 20:33, Andyben said: De Bruyne off early again.? He had to get his Wednesday kit ready for the celebrations. https://twitter.com/BeReyt0114/status/1668121045168193536?t=6wlgM4d8w_y6Dm-M6zO3IA&s=19 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 11 minutes ago, Vialli said: He had to get his Wednesday kit ready for the celebrations. https://twitter.com/BeReyt0114/status/1668121045168193536?t=6wlgM4d8w_y6Dm-M6zO3IA&s=19 Saw that earlier…. Gerrim in DC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 48 minutes ago, EastCraigsOwl said: I never really rated Niemi during his time at Hearts. Rarely caught the ball and, way too often, would palm it out. Any goal poaching striker could quite easily score a hat trick against him but the quality in Scottish football meant those were few and far between. Whoosh.... think @Tylluangot it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 41 minutes ago, Vialli said: He had to get his Wednesday kit ready for the celebrations. https://twitter.com/BeReyt0114/status/1668121045168193536?t=6wlgM4d8w_y6Dm-M6zO3IA&s=19 Apparently donned the Blue and White to wind up Kyle Walker. Wins Champions League and still takes time to give a salute to Wednesday. Those poor Blades - overshadowed again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCraigsOwl Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 44 minutes ago, Andyben said: Whoosh.... think @Tylluangot it I did get it ("Finnished"), hence the 'haha' reaction before my eventual reply 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 Remember the radio phone in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 1 hour ago, Hirstys 12th Pint said: Apparently donned the Blue and White to wind up Kyle Walker. Wins Champions League and still takes time to give a salute to Wednesday. Those poor Blades - overshadowed again. That's KDB out till Christmas and he only had the kit on for 5 mins 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCraigsOwl Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 1 hour ago, Andyben said: Remember the radio phone in? I do. Was that you? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 12 hours ago, Vialli said: He had to get his Wednesday kit ready for the celebrations. https://twitter.com/BeReyt0114/status/1668121045168193536?t=6wlgM4d8w_y6Dm-M6zO3IA&s=19 Just posted this on another thread. Never mind, still funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Just realised that England a playing the mighty Malta and North Macedonia at the end of this week early next. Why in earth has Southgate selected Stones, Grealish and Foden. Surely we would have enough against these footballing power houses without needing to call on the Man City players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 6 hours ago, Hirstys 12th Pint said: Just realised that England a playing the mighty Malta and North Macedonia at the end of this week early next. Why in earth has Southgate selected Stones, Grealish and Foden. Surely we would have enough against these footballing power houses without needing to call on the Man City players. Grealish had to be carried into training or summat I’d heard after his ‘overexhuberance’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 7 hours ago, Hirstys 12th Pint said: Why in earth has Southgate selected Stones, Grealish and Foden. I think UEFA have a squad stipulation in, a bit like Papa Johns, that says you have to have so many 'regular' starters in your squad. Something to do with TV rites and 'diluting the product' if the bigger nations turned out a team of u21s or less well known players when facing the likes of Malta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 55 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: Grealish had to be carried into training or summat I’d heard after his ‘overexhuberance’ Not quite the pic doing the rounds was in Ibiza, where the squad went to post the game but before going back to Manchester. There was a large degree of exuberance displayed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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