Season tickets…. Chatter and 25/26 prices

[Supercockle]

22 minutes ago, Paul from Wisewood said:

It’s like they’ve just plucked numbers out of the air between phase 1 and 2, adult  goes up £40 on the north but concession goes up £60 

Getting your brass before you perish 

[mkowl]

If you are a season ticket holder you can't really fault those prices. I will never support the timing of the renewals or the short phases involved. But such is life.

The renewal rate will be interesting, on the pitch it's the best for a while in terms of position, home form not so great. It's more whether the 12.30 kick offs, midweek games, TV ubiquity will impact numbers

[Teddy Nickelarse]

15 minutes ago, mkowl said:

If you are a season ticket holder you can't really fault those prices. I will never support the timing of the renewals or the short phases involved. But such is life.

The renewal rate will be interesting, on the pitch it's the best for a while in terms of position, home form not so great. It's more whether the 12.30 kick offs, midweek games, TV ubiquity will impact numbers

I think there'll be a fall off of numbers for those reasons. Although still reasonably priced the 17% hike in concession prices will quite likely impact too.  I've  noticed that a good number of ST holders round me are giving it a miss in midweek this season. 

[lyn_owl]

We renewed ours today, we opted to have a physical card instead of having them on the phones this time, until they said cards have gone up from £2.50 to £10. So they're back on the phones.

[owl4ever1867]

2 hours ago, lyn_owl said:

We renewed ours today, we opted to have a physical card instead of having them on the phones this time, until they said cards have gone up from £2.50 to £10. So they're back on the phones.

That's ridiculous

[HoylandOwl]

21 hours ago, Paul from Wisewood said:

It’s like they’ve just plucked numbers out of the air between phase 1 and 2, adult  goes up £40 on the north but concession goes up £60 

Thank Wednesdayite for that

[Skamp]

Is the 65 year old concession the age when they season starts or when the ticket is bought? Anyone know?

[Billysboy]

1 hour ago, HoylandOwl said:

Thank Wednesdayite for that

Absolutely fucking self important cocks, like every fan group that ever existed, in my opinion.

[fOWLmouth]

2 hours ago, Skamp said:

Is the 65 year old concession the age when they season starts or when the ticket is bought? Anyone know?

I bought my first senior concession in the first phase of release and at that time I was 64,turning 65 in the March.

 I hope that’s clear but I’ve been drinking.

[Fat Eric]

2 hours ago, Skamp said:

Is the 65 year old concession the age when they season starts or when the ticket is bought? Anyone know?

When I was a lad Skamp, the price was relevant to the age at the 1st game of the season.

[M42Owl]

3 hours ago, Skamp said:

Is the 65 year old concession the age when they season starts or when the ticket is bought? Anyone know?

When I got my first senior ST this time last year, I thought I might miss out because I seem to recall seeing Aug 1st as the deadline whereas my birthday is 5th.

When I went to renew, the system defaulted to senior. I didn’t need to ask or chase up or send the club my birth certificate.

So whatever the deadline, it’s after Aug 5th.

[HoylandOwl]

14 hours ago, Billysboy said:

Absolutely fucking self important cocks, like every fan group that ever existed, in my opinion.

Nope.

We’re not…. I say we… as I used to be on the steering group when it first started..

Then I left it, for two reasons. One, I didn’t see the point of a group which was arguing about why a left back was given number 2. And I still didn’t understand why we had 7 or 8 categories of ticket pricing when A* was never going to be used yet it made the club look like they would charge £42 per game or whatever it was. And the ‘club’ couldn’t see the negative impression it gave, and the ammo it gave media to slag them off. 
Secondly, then also I left because of my work schedule changing.

It felt just like a box ticking exercise. Which I know every club has to have an engagement panel etc, as instructed by the EFL. And Wednesday did it before it came to pass, we were leading the way, but it doesn’t feel like it’s that ‘engaging’ other than allowing people to speak to the powers That be. 

[Billysboy]

1 hour ago, HoylandOwl said:

Nope.

We’re not…. I say we… as I used to be on the steering group when it first started..

Then I left it, for two reasons. One, I didn’t see the point of a group which was arguing about why a left back was given number 2. And I still didn’t understand why we had 7 or 8 categories of ticket pricing when A* was never going to be used yet it made the club look like they would charge £42 per game or whatever it was. And the ‘club’ couldn’t see the negative impression it gave, and the ammo it gave media to slag them off. 
Secondly, then also I left because of my work schedule changing.

It felt just like a box ticking exercise. Which I know every club has to have an engagement panel etc, as instructed by the EFL. And Wednesday did it before it came to pass, we were leading the way, but it doesn’t feel like it’s that ‘engaging’ other than allowing people to speak to the powers That be. 

OK I may have generalized a bit, but your reasons for leaving were valid points, you didn't put forward a suggestion that penalises a section of the fanbase like that wednesdayite twat, unforgivable.

[Owling_Wolf]

On 21/12/2024 at 16:50, lyn_owl said:

We renewed ours today, we opted to have a physical card instead of having them on the phones this time, until they said cards have gone up from £2.50 to £10. So they're back on the phones.

That's ridiculous.  (The price, not your decision.)

[Owling_Wolf]

On 21/12/2024 at 22:47, M42Owl said:

When I got my first senior ST this time last year, I thought I might miss out because I seem to recall seeing Aug 1st as the deadline whereas my birthday is 5th.

When I went to renew, the system defaulted to senior. I didn’t need to ask or chase up or send the club my birth certificate.

So whatever the deadline, it’s after Aug 5th.

I'll remember that when mine comes round.  

👀

[mkowl]

On 21/12/2024 at 20:26, Billysboy said:

Absolutely fucking self important cocks, like every fan group that ever existed, in my opinion.

I guess the reality is you have to be a certain character type to put yourself forward in the first place. So the introverts are always missing, the self confident ones are who you see.

The irony for me is I got involved with WTID when in every other walk of life I am the wallflower. I suppose it was driven simply by the fear of the club going bust, thinking there had to be a better way and some of the ideas - however fanciful - gained some traction on here.

 

 

[Waddle93]

Just an example of bad management from the top.

Kids tickets should be virtually given away and adult tickets shouldn't be what there are either that along with the timing make you realise without Dad dc wouldn't have a pot to piss in.

Just have a set sales date/dates every year and reasonable prices this isn't hard with a captive audience who have no intention of shopping elsewhere.

[Andyben]

6 minutes ago, Waddle93 said:

Just have a set sales date/dates every year and reasonable prices this isn't hard with a captive audience who have no intention of shopping elsewhere.

So SWFC  charge whatever it decides it needs to stay afloat and improve the playing squad then, can't it..

[Skamp]

Just as night follows day, Wednesday fans moaning about prices and dipping their hand into their pocket whilst simultaneously moaning that Chansiri won't put his hand in his pocket to buy players.

 

[Teddy Nickelarse]

51 minutes ago, Skamp said:

Just as night follows day, Wednesday fans moaning about prices and dipping their hand into their pocket whilst simultaneously moaning that Chansiri won't put his hand in his pocket to buy players.

 

'Ambition' when it comes spending is the sole responsibility of the owner, not the fans,............... apparently.

[Waddle93]

2 hours ago, Andyben said:

So SWFC  charge whatever it decides it needs to stay afloat and improve the playing squad then, can't it..

They do and idiotsike me keep renewing, still doesn't make it right though.

[Andyben]

Course it does.

[Teddy Nickelarse]

47 minutes ago, Waddle93 said:

They do and idiotsike me keep renewing, still doesn't make it right though.

Thumbs up for renewing. It's  Owlstalkesque swipe at DC that will irk some on here. Not a pot to piss in is de rigeur mantra over there.

[Billysboy]

4 hours ago, mkowl said:

I guess the reality is you have to be a certain character type to put yourself forward in the first place. So the introverts are always missing, the self confident ones are who you see.

The irony for me is I got involved with WTID when in every other walk of life I am the wallflower. I suppose it was driven simply by the fear of the club going bust, thinking there had to be a better way and some of the ideas - however fanciful - gained some traction on here.

 

 

I'm guilty of generalising as I said in my post above, but I'm really pissed off that a leader/member of a fan group suggested raising prices for a section of the fanbase.

[Waddle93]

3 hours ago, Andyben said:

Course it does.

 

What does?

Prices are high and ridiculously high for match days to attract many floating fans, I'd love 30k plus every game as atmosphere on a big match at Hillsborough can kill teams as we've seen before.

Something else that irks me is its apparently to rip off away fans but we stick them in cheapest section of the ground 😂

[Otto_Man]

50 minutes ago, Waddle93 said:

 

What does?

Prices are high and ridiculously high for match days to attract many floating fans, I'd love 30k plus every game as atmosphere on a big match at Hillsborough can kill teams as we've seen before.

Something else that irks me is its apparently to rip off away fans but we stick them in cheapest section of the ground 😂

Myth. Strafford practically gave tickets away and we still got nowhere near 30k.

I'll say what I always say when the moaning about ticket prices starts, show me something equivalent that's cheaper. Professional production at a theatre will be upwards of £40 per ticket and don't get me started on the price of concert tickets. Day ticket for tramlines is 80 notes to sit through a load of bands I've never heard of for the one or two I might fancy seeing.

Life's expensive, but the £20 per game you can pay to sit on the kop is good value IMO 

[Andyben]

N dat 

 

Nev

[Waddle93]

3 hours ago, Otto_Man said:

Myth. Strafford practically gave tickets away and we still got nowhere near 30k.

I'll say what I always say when the moaning about ticket prices starts, show me something equivalent that's cheaper. Professional production at a theatre will be upwards of £40 per ticket and don't get me started on the price of concert tickets. Day ticket for tramlines is 80 notes to sit through a load of bands I've never heard of for the one or two I might fancy seeing.

Life's expensive, but the £20 per game you can pay to sit on the kop is good value IMO 

Football and attendances are changing though or have been via more exposure and yes it's more expensive for a concert hence why I do 1 a year maybe same with Boxing but football is every week sometimes twice a week and should be affordable.

We are based in a skint area so need everything as affordable as possible.

[Reesh]

13 minutes ago, Waddle93 said:

Football and attendances are changing though or have been via more exposure and yes it's more expensive for a concert hence why I do 1 a year maybe same with Boxing but football is every week sometimes twice a week and should be affordable.

We are based in a skint area so need everything as affordable as possible.

Oh do fuck off. How do we compete with clubs with parachute payments without having the ticket prices we have? 

Most areas are skint, don't make out Sheffield is much different to the rest of the country.

[Andyben]

Village 

[Tylluan]

5 hours ago, Waddle93 said:

Something else that irks me is its apparently to rip off away fans but we stick them in cheapest section of the ground 😂

Where would you stick them? Bottom half of the South so we can charge North prices and they can get piss thrown on them from above. Then you can fill the Lepp out with home fans on prices the same as the Kop.

Oh, wait a minute...

[Waddle93]

1 hour ago, Reesh said:

Oh do fuck off. How do we compete with clubs with parachute payments without having the ticket prices we have? 

Most areas are skint, don't make out Sheffield is much different to the rest of the country.

 

Well good debate you bell end

[Waddle93]

1 hour ago, Andyben said:

Village 

 

Jesus brain dead or what, sorry prices are great 🙄

[Waddle93]

1 hour ago, Tylluan said:

Where would you stick them? Bottom half of the South so we can charge North prices and they can get piss thrown on them from above. Then you can fill the Lepp out with home fans on prices the same as the Kop.

Oh, wait a minute...

 

They should be on side definitely 

[Otto_Man]

2 hours ago, Waddle93 said:

Football and attendances are changing though or have been via more exposure and yes it's more expensive for a concert hence why I do 1 a year maybe same with Boxing but football is every week sometimes twice a week and should be affordable.

We are based in a skint area so need everything as affordable as possible.

If you want to go and watch an amateur dramatic group panto at the Montgomery it'll set you back £20.50, it'll last about the same length of time as a footy match and no-one acting in it is being paid...

[Waddle93]

6 minutes ago, Otto_Man said:

If you want to go and watch an amateur dramatic group panto at the Montgomery it'll set you back £20.50, it'll last about the same length of time as a footy match and no-one acting in it is being paid...

Yes I just think football clubs are meant to be part of a community and should be affordable to most.

It's different to Gigs, Panto etc as there not Weekly events.

[Tylluan]

1 hour ago, Waddle93 said:

Yes I just think football clubs are meant to be part of a community and should be affordable to most.

It's different to Gigs, Panto etc as there not Weekly events.

Sorry Wadds but professional football clubs stopped being part of the community, in the way you want, the moment they became limited companies and were run as a business, more so when the Sky took the game over. Even so called fan run clubs are still businesses with a need to be financially stable. The days of gate receipts covering wages disappeared in the 70s. 

You want a club with a community feeling then your local non league club would be your best bet. Doesn't stop you supporting Wednesday as most on here will tell you. £12 a ticket, decent food, reasonably priced beer, good atmosphere and decent football for the level

[Reesh]

8 hours ago, Waddle93 said:

 

Well good debate you bell end

How does go fuck yourself sound you silly ****. You won't stick around long with that attitude, hope your Christmas dinner gets burnt and the missus fucks off.

[mkowl]

2 hours ago, Reesh said:

How does go fuck yourself sound you silly ****. You won't stick around long with that attitude, hope your Christmas dinner gets burnt and the missus fucks off.

Merry Christmas Reesh 🎅

[HoylandOwl]

9 hours ago, Tylluan said:

Sorry Wadds but professional football clubs stopped being part of the community, in the way you want, the moment they became limited companies and were run as a business, more so when the Sky took the game over. Even so called fan run clubs are still businesses with a need to be financially stable. The days of gate receipts covering wages disappeared in the 70s. 

You want a club with a community feeling then your local non league club would be your best bet. Doesn't stop you supporting Wednesday as most on here will tell you. £12 a ticket, decent food, reasonably priced beer, good atmosphere and decent football for the level

This is where football is at unfortunately. While I appreciate where you’re coming from @Waddle93 and it would be lovely if ‘professional’ football was still the way you say. It’s not.

Wednesday are no different to any other club, in one way or another Matchday tickets or season ticket prices are moaned about.  And before anyone says it, no I’m not saying it makes it right. That’s just the football landscape, across the board. If people want change, there’d have to be sweeping change across the league from all clubs. It’s not happening.

My hugest bug bear is the timing/length of time to buy, 2 weeks to buy at the cheapest level, is shite, it’s always been shite. Not only is it crap for fans. It also makes it easy to link it to a cash flow problem, even if it’s not. The ‘negative optics’ of club decisions are at times so easy to aim at DC. We don’t know if they’re related decisions, and never will but it certainly fuels the negative fire and it’s easy to see why people can think that. 
 

 

[Andyben]

40 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said:

My hugest bug bear is the timing/length of time to buy, 2 weeks to buy at the cheapest level, is shite, it’s always been shite.

If it’s happened for the last 5+ seasons then people have to be seriously thick to expect anything else

Everyone knows this is what will happen and you have 11.5 months to prepare not 2 weeks

[HoylandOwl]

2 hours ago, Andyben said:

If it’s happened for the last 5+ seasons then people have to be seriously thick to expect anything else

Everyone knows this is what will happen and you have 11.5 months to prepare not 2 weeks

Yeah it’s not a surprise pal, not at all. But for those who are ‘new’ fans… which there will be some.

I consider myself lucky that we can sort ours out. But…The pressures on some households this time of year are already magnified with all the constant marketing of things, and there’s a lot who really struggle and have to make big decisions financially.

If we’re to do short term deadlines etc, I just think it would be as ‘agreeable’ as it could be if it was in January rather than over Xmas.

Or even, announce them in December but don’t drop the ‘on sale now’ immediately, and open the purchasing window later and people can plan ahead and if the window of purchasing opportunity was still as short, they’d still have had opportunity to get organised. 

 

[Waddle93]

19 hours ago, Reesh said:

How does go fuck yourself sound you silly ****. You won't stick around long with that attitude, hope your Christmas dinner gets burnt and the missus fucks off.

 

Something I guessing can't happen with yourself, Unless your sock can make a good Christmas dinner?

[Waddle93]

On 24/12/2024 at 23:42, Tylluan said:

Sorry Wadds but professional football clubs stopped being part of the community, in the way you want, the moment they became limited companies and were run as a business, more so when the Sky took the game over. Even so called fan run clubs are still businesses with a need to be financially stable. The days of gate receipts covering wages disappeared in the 70s. 

You want a club with a community feeling then your local non league club would be your best bet. Doesn't stop you supporting Wednesday as most on here will tell you. £12 a ticket, decent food, reasonably priced beer, good atmosphere and decent football for the level

 

Its a shame that's happened just wish we didn't have to be like the rest or dearer than the majority.

Must be people out there who can think of other ways to drum up income.

[Waddle93]

15 hours ago, HoylandOwl said:

This is where football is at unfortunately. While I appreciate where you’re coming from @Waddle93 and it would be lovely if ‘professional’ football was still the way you say. It’s not.

Wednesday are no different to any other club, in one way or another Matchday tickets or season ticket prices are moaned about.  And before anyone says it, no I’m not saying it makes it right. That’s just the football landscape, across the board. If people want change, there’d have to be sweeping change across the league from all clubs. It’s not happening.

My hugest bug bear is the timing/length of time to buy, 2 weeks to buy at the cheapest level, is shite, it’s always been shite. Not only is it crap for fans. It also makes it easy to link it to a cash flow problem, even if it’s not. The ‘negative optics’ of club decisions are at times so easy to aim at DC. We don’t know if they’re related decisions, and never will but it certainly fuels the negative fire and it’s easy to see why people can think that. 
 

 

 

Yes a shame and as for sales periods I wouldn't mind it being 1st Dec - 1st Jan every year if people knew this and discount was big enough that allows people to plan it in every year.

Last year January, This year December and not cheaper than others who wait until March time.

Like you say we don't know either way if it's a cash flow thing or not we can only make educated guesses but other decisions he's made doesn't make you think he's the most clued up.

[HoylandOwl]

7 hours ago, Waddle93 said:

 

Yes a shame and as for sales periods I wouldn't mind it being 1st Dec - 1st Jan every year if people knew this and discount was big enough that allows people to plan it in every year.

Last year January, This year December and not cheaper than others who wait until March time.

Like you say we don't know either way if it's a cash flow thing or not we can only make educated guesses but other decisions he's made doesn't make you think he's the most clued up.

The other thing is, can anyone actually say that this is down to DC or not? 

[Andyben]

21 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said:

The other thing is, can anyone actually say that this is down to DC or not? 

Here's a tip Terry:

If anyone moans about something the club does or did and says DC not SWFC they're a Nev and should be ignored.

[HoylandOwl]

Noted. 🤣

[Reesh]

8 hours ago, Waddle93 said:

 

Something I guessing can't happen with yourself, Unless your sock can make a good Christmas dinner?

Ha touche, just getting ready for three nights away with our lass, spent yesterday with my sister, her bloke and my niece. Were you sat at home cry wanking over DC with a pot noodle.

 

Now be a good little owlstalker and fuck off back there.

Edited December 26, 2024 by Reesh

[mkowl]

Out of interest young un got me for Christmas a programme when we played Derby on 30th Jan 1999. 

Pay on the day price on the Kop for a Category A game ? 

I won't do a guessing game 

 

 

 

 

 

The answer was £16