Embargo

[Canterburyowl]

Staton reckons we are under another one

 

 

[Kiwi Owl]

[bradowl]

For what? I thought we were doing ok financially lately. 

I see from above post it's the old taxman wanting his money. 

Edited October 31, 2024 by bradowl

[JBO]

They drink it in the Congo, I heard 

[Reesh]

Oh and embargo in October..... how will we cope.

[holmesfield_owl]

I'm assuming that apart from possibly signing a free agent which I doubt we'd do anyway (can't remember if we still had a place left) then so long as it's paid by January then really doesn't matter, probably just an issue getting the money across like previously 

[HappyOwl]

Where’s the 1867 group when you need them come on ACTION STATIONS HANDS OFF COCKS ON SOCKS 🤣🤣🤣 statement incoming call to arms print the flyers blah blah blah 

[Owling_Wolf]

Didn't see that coming!   

[Reesh]

It happened this time last year.

 

All the uneducated are up in arms....

[Tylluan]

47 minutes ago, holmesfield_owl said:

I'm assuming that apart from possibly signing a free agent which I doubt we'd do anyway

You can bring free agents in while under embargo providing you have the squad space and they go straight in. 

The embargo just stops you paying money to other clubs when you owe other parties. 

[Harry Lime]

Move along now, nothing to see here folks. I'm sure Dejphon is just waiting for the £ to tank a bit more after yesterday's budget.

[Teddy Nickelarse]

13 minutes ago, Reesh said:

It happened this time last year.

 

All the uneducated are up in arms....

Manna from heaven  for them. If it stymies us in the next window it would be different but I fully expect that the HMRC bill will be settled well in advance of that.

I do hope that DC keeps schtum in the meantime though - in the face of the inevitable brickbats that will come his way from the usual suspects.

[Owling_Wolf]

27 minutes ago, Tylluan said:

You can bring free agents in while under embargo providing you have the squad space and they go straight in. 

The embargo just stops you paying money to other clubs when you owe other parties. 

Like for Beadle & Shea?

[Reesh]

4 minutes ago, Owling_Wolf said:

Like for Beadle & Shea?

Mountain....

 

 

Molehill.

[Tylluan]

1 minute ago, Owling_Wolf said:

Like for Beadle & Shea?

Deals done before the embargo don't count. Otherwise we'd have to send back every player we were still paying for.

[mkowl]

Ironically this came up on my Facebook memories from last year. 

Let's be honest despite all the Chansiri cock sucking crew in gobfull mode on here it's a bit crap we are here yet again

[Supercockle]

6 minutes ago, mkowl said:

Ironically this came up on my Facebook memories from last year. 

Let's be honest despite all the Chansiri cock sucking crew in gobfull mode on here it's a bit crap we are here yet again

Christmas has come early for you I see. 
 

 

[Owling_Wolf]

3 minutes ago, mkowl said:

Ironically this came up on my Facebook memories from last year. 

Let's be honest despite all the Chansiri cock sucking crew in gobfull mode on here it's a bit crap we are here yet again

A bit?  Even if little or nothing actually comes of it, we're going to have to listen to not only the arseholes deciding they were born for a reason after all but that football accountancy 'expert' ad nauseum again.   What have we done wrong to deserve that all over again?   🤮

[mkowl]

1 minute ago, Supercockle said:

Christmas has come early for you I see. 
 

 

Not really, simply bored of the Club going one step forward with Rohl but then risking it all with financial pressures threatening to de-stabilise the lot, so 2 steps back.

Sadly our ownership and funding model is totally dependent on the one person - not unique I know - but leaves us susceptible to this risk 

Wouldn't it be great if we could just move forward without the drama every few months.

Have the players been paid, who knows but that uncertainty is not going to help. If you are Rohl and you have had your wish list for January handed over what does this news infer.

At least the fans haven't been asked for the £2m to pay HMRC like last year - yet. 

The reality is Chansiri needs to instigate the handover of the Club to someone with deeper pockets to move us forward 

 

 

[Reesh]

1 minute ago, mkowl said:

Not really, simply bored of the Club going one step forward with Rohl but then risking it all with financial pressures threatening to de-stabilise the lot, so 2 steps back.

Sadly our ownership and funding model is totally dependent on the one person - not unique I know - but leaves us susceptible to this risk 

Wouldn't it be great if we could just move forward without the drama every few months.

Have the players been paid, who knows but that uncertainty is not going to help. If you are Rohl and you have had your wish list for January handed over what does this news infer.

At least the fans haven't been asked for the £2m to pay HMRC like last year - yet. 

The reality is Chansiri needs to instigate the handover of the Club to someone with deeper pockets to move us forward 

 

 

Oh fuck off. 

[SailsburyOwl]

Not fit. Not proper.

 

Chansiri out 🎾 

[Reesh]

Fuck off Geoff

 

[mkowl]

12 minutes ago, Owling_Wolf said:

A bit?  Even if little or nothing actually comes of it, we're going to have to listen to not only the arseholes deciding they were born for a reason after all but that football accountancy 'expert' ad nauseum again.   What have we done wrong to deserve that all over again?   🤮

That is my point Owling. It may be a storm in a tea cup and Chansiri can quickly clear the debt - let's hope so - but how long to the next time etc etc.

I am not going to join the throng or protest or listen to some know fuck all lecturer, the call is more like I said this time last year it needs Chansiri to accept the Club is best served if we can find new investors. Jeez it can't be fun for him, cash flow pressure is stress and anxiety for anyone, nevermind 20,000 experts questioning you.

I don't accept that he deserves defending, here we are again but at the same token going down with pitchforks ain't going to solve owt.

The key for me is Chansiri needs to actively seek a buyer over the next few months. Rid himself from the stress, enable us to have a bit more sounder footing to progress.

 

[mkowl]

9 minutes ago, Reesh said:

Oh fuck off. 

Educated response 👌

[Reesh]

Just now, mkowl said:

That is my point Owling. It may be a storm in a tea cup and Chansiri can quickly clear the debt - let's hope so - but how long to the next time etc etc.

I am not going to join the throng or protest or listen to some know fuck all lecturer, the call is more like I said this time last year it needs Chansiri to accept the Club is best served if we can find new investors. Jeez it can't be fun for him, cash flow pressure is stress and anxiety for anyone, nevermind 20,000 experts questioning you.

I don't accept that he deserves defending, here we are again but at the same token going down with pitchforks ain't going to solve owt.

The key for me is Chansiri needs to actively seek a buyer over the next few months. Rid himself from the stress, enable us to have a bit more sounder footing to progress.

 

Anything to suggest he isn't...

[mkowl]

10 minutes ago, Reesh said:

Oh fuck off. 

What is your plan. Put 2 pencils up your nose and go wibble. 

[Reesh]

Just now, mkowl said:

Educated response 👌

There's some balloon knot on X suggesting that the players wages will be delayed in November, based on fuck all, it's standard divide and conquer tactics, Staton loved breaking the news cos he's fucked off his pal Shaw has been shown up as a Walter Mitty type character, the 1867 spackers need this to justify their inane existence.

 

Is it shit? Yes but it isn't as worrying as people are trying to make it out, we are basically flexing a loan from HMRC.

[Reesh]

2 minutes ago, mkowl said:

What is your plan. Put 2 pencils up your nose and go wibble. 

I can stick two pencils in your hands if you want, blunt or sharpened, your choice?

[Harry Lime]

Sorry if already posted, nothing to see as I said earlier.

 

[mkowl]

1 minute ago, Reesh said:

Anything to suggest he isn't...

Anything to suggest he is, there were rumours last year, I know of some professional people in Sheffield that tried to introduce potential investors. The lack of information and intent on Chansiri's part suggested he wasn't serious.

My frustration is that we are again talking about off field matters when on field is looking better. The risk is the uncertainty kills that like the all points deduction saga.

Aren't you bored of the soap opera, I am. But I am fucking realistic the solution aint easy - just we need to get a solution before the trough of doom appears 

[ProfessorOwl]

Wouldn't be Wednesday if wouldn't a bit of drama(albeit slight it seems) to liven up one's week haha.

[Reesh]

2 minutes ago, mkowl said:

Anything to suggest he is, there were rumours last year, I know of some professional people in Sheffield that tried to introduce potential investors. The lack of information and intent on Chansiri's part suggested he wasn't serious.

My frustration is that we are again talking about off field matters when on field is looking better. The risk is the uncertainty kills that like the all points deduction saga.

Aren't you bored of the soap opera, I am. But I am fucking realistic the solution aint easy - just we need to get a solution before the trough of doom appears 

Course I'm bored of it all, it was more fun watching us before the explosion of social media where every fucking action of the club is played out and scrutinised by Dylan and Seanzy who have one GCSE in art between em.

Old Geoff has said fuck all on here for months and it's been bliss but popped his enlarged head up tonight, it's boring.

[Reesh]

https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-release-statement-on-transfer-embargo-update-on-player-wages-4848610

 

[mkowl]

4 minutes ago, Reesh said:

There's some balloon knot on X suggesting that the players wages will be delayed in November, based on fuck all, it's standard divide and conquer tactics, Staton loved breaking the news cos he's fucked off his pal Shaw has been shown up as a Walter Mitty type character, the 1867 spackers need this to justify their inane existence.

 

Is it shit? Yes but it isn't as worrying as people are trying to make it out, we are basically flexing a loan from HMRC.

It is good news that player wages have been paid by the sounds of it. 

I don't like we are using HMRC in that way, they are not as patient as they once were. Perhaps I still get PTSD from 2010 and all that. Caused by local owners of course

Yes the uneducated nonsense is frustrating, but it's annoying that we are having this out in the open again.

Just fucking bored of it 

[mkowl]

10 minutes ago, Reesh said:

I can stick two pencils in your hands if you want, blunt or sharpened, your choice?

Be careful, if I can't type then no job reference

[Reesh]

2 minutes ago, mkowl said:

Be careful, if I can't type then no job reference

You'll be healed by January 

[Reesh]

3 minutes ago, mkowl said:

It is good news that player wages have been paid by the sounds of it. 

I don't like we are using HMRC in that way, they are not as patient as they once were. Perhaps I still get PTSD from 2010 and all that. Caused by local owners of course

Yes the uneducated nonsense is frustrating, but it's annoying that we are having this out in the open again.

Just fucking bored of it 

Well they are sat on £24k of my clients money and have inclination to return it so fuck em.

[mkowl]

3 minutes ago, Reesh said:

Course I'm bored of it all, it was more fun watching us before the explosion of social media where every fucking action of the club is played out and scrutinised by Dylan and Seanzy who have one GCSE in art between em.

Old Geoff has said fuck all on here for months and it's been bliss but popped his enlarged head up tonight, it's boring.

I am sort of balanced I hate the haters but hate the lovers as well. 

What I want is a football club that is well run, funded reasonably and we can see is on an uptick. While ever Chansiri remains the owner I am not sure we can achieve all 3 elements 

But equally I can see the risk of us forcing him out - not that we can really - into the arms of someone worse.

The baton needs passing in an orderly manner is basically where I am at

[mkowl]

4 minutes ago, Reesh said:

You'll be healed by January 

No January is when I self harm - wait till Feb 

[mkowl]

4 minutes ago, Reesh said:

Well they are sat on £24k of my clients money and have inclination to return it so fuck em.

Par for the course, it's Rachel's to give to some train driver now 

[Teddy Nickelarse]

7 minutes ago, mkowl said:

I am sort of balanced I hate the haters but hate the lovers as well. 

What I want is a football club that is well run, funded reasonably and we can see is on an uptick. While ever Chansiri remains the owner I am not sure we can achieve all 3 elements 

But equally I can see the risk of us forcing him out - not that we can really - into the arms of someone worse.

The baton needs passing in an orderly manner is basically where I am at

I don't  think there are many DC lovers; just people pushing back against the haters, faux hand-wringers and over reactors who you just know are always lurking in the shadows waiting for this kind of news.

 

 

[OwlMR]

People have mentioned it happened at a similar time last season what was the reason then? I cant remember. 

Obviously is means absolutely sweet fa at the moment as we arent able to sign anyone for a fee until Jan and then it's unlikely. Really means nothing just interested as to what it might be I relation to? 

[Teddy Nickelarse]

21 minutes ago, OwlMR said:

People have mentioned it happened at a similar time last season what was the reason then? I cant remember. 

Obviously is means absolutely sweet fa at the moment as we arent able to sign anyone for a fee until Jan and then it's unlikely. Really means nothing just interested as to what it might be I relation to? 

Same as last year according to club statement - monies owed to DC still outstanding causing a knock- on effect. Statement says the club expects the issue to be 'finalised imminently'

[OwlMR]

13 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said:

Same as last year according to club statement - monies owed to DC still outstanding causing a knock- on effect. Statement says the club expects the issue to be 'finalised imminently'

Nice one, cheers. 

Nothing to worry about then, just something for the stir to write about. 

[Andyben]

7 hours ago, mkowl said:

Ironically this came up on my Facebook memories from last year. 

Let's be honest despite all the Chansiri cock sucking crew in gobfull mode on here it's a bit crap we are here yet again

www.dingitas.ch

We'll all chip in pal.

 

[mkowl]

11 minutes ago, Andyben said:

www.dingitas.ch

We'll all chip in pal.

 

That's Life I guess 

I can take your business plan to buy the Club along as that appears to have died a death as well

[mkowl]

7 hours ago, OwlMR said:

People have mentioned it happened at a similar time last season what was the reason then? I cant remember. 

Obviously is means absolutely sweet fa at the moment as we arent able to sign anyone for a fee until Jan and then it's unlikely. Really means nothing just interested as to what it might be I relation to? 

Like I say it actually came up on my Facebook memories because it was when Chansiri suggested the fans contribute to the £2m deficit. Which I posted on there "ok but it's open book time on the finances"

I didn't re-comment on it because naively and stupidly thought it's all quite mundane at present and all the better for it. Short lived.

And that is the problem with Chansiri being the owner, we always seem to be that one step from implosion of some sort.

I ask the question - it's been nigh on 30 years of abject failure by the various parties that have owned this Club. Aren't you bored of it

[HoylandOwl]

It’s all boring, and I’m fed up of the money merry go round and on the face of the ‘headlines’ it’s a concern. But, I’ll leave the money chat to those that know more about it than me. 

Is his stewardship of the club without its faults? Absolutely not. Are we on the high court steps as we once were? Absolutely not. 
Would I be worried if it wasn’t resolved soon or ‘imminently’? Absolutely. Would I prefer this kind of stuff to stop? Absolutely. (Like MK in that respect). 

All I know is that it was sorted last year, it was sorted the time before that. All by DC. 

 

 

[Chelters]

Storm in a teacup. EFL rules are very strict in this area and penalise clubs for what is relatively normal business practice.

[mkowl]

8 minutes ago, Chelters said:

Storm in a teacup. EFL rules are very strict in this area and penalise clubs for what is relatively normal business practice.

It is a bit too easy to brush it off. The reality is where your funding is totally reliant on one funder then the risk is magnified. We do not know the chain here, how many steps before we get to money due to Chansiri to then put into the Club. If one step fails then the domino effect. 

It will probably be fine but if in the background Chansiri is forever spinning plates, one day, I think we have been close before, that will crash. 

What then ?