MAL Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 We are no good, just strolling around and playing keep ball and passback. Quote
Andyben Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 Shea Charles is so good, he makes Bannan look like Barry Bannan 2 Quote
MAL Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssssss What a win Quote
cheat Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 1 hour ago, cheat said: Absolute wank Sorry Wednesday. Much better second half, and a well deserved three points. Quote
mkowl Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 Only play when we are 1 down ! So much better in the 2nd half by playing with tempo, a bit of quality, more control in midfield being the key building block to victory And a cracking goal to win it Quote
Skamp Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 Special mention to the travelling fans. What a noise they made on the south coast for a televised Friday night game. 3 Quote
mkowl Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 Just now, mkowl said: 4 points off the play offs 😃 Sounds a lot better than 1 point off the relegation spot innit Quote
DirtyOwl Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 Really good second half, Bannan had a really good 30 min or so. Smith all around game seems to have improved, the link up, pressing and not to mention the absolute rocket he’s just scored. Pompeys press were quite good to be fair to them as well. 1 Quote
bradowl Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 Terrific win that, looked unlikely at half time. Quote
KrolMong Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 Massive massive credit to Rohl for deciding to go Sturrock for 15 mins and ale housing Pompey to then allow us to get a foothold to play. Diagonals aimed at Smith and Valery and Bannan, Windass and Charles pick up the seconds, it created pressure and Pompey fell apart with and without the ball. Lovely goal from Windass, worldie from Smith. And a whole raft of very good second half displays. Iorfa, Bernard, Smith, Bannan, Charles all very good. At times, Bannan and Charles outstanding - those two pivot off each other so well. Good win, good second half display and more to come too. 1 Quote
mkowl Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 Just now, Skamp said: Special mention to the travelling fans. What a noise they made on the south coast for a televised Friday night game. But if we play a more aggressive attacking style the fans will also respond to it, win win really. Key is trying to bring that into the home games. I understand why he wants Musaba and /or Gassama in the starting 11, but it seems to make our attacking disjointed. The goals came from proper inter play between strikers, not individual effort Quote
Harry Lime Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 Sibonesque that goal from Smith. Marvellous strike.I thought it was him, come back to us for a moment. Quote
Bob Petrie Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 Another goal that started with Beedle. sky seemed to gloss over the fact that Smith got flattened on halfway in the build up. Picked himself up and got on the end of it. Probably too knackered to do owt else but swing at it. Quote
Jim Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 3 minutes ago, Bob Petrie said: Another goal that started with Beedle. sky seemed to gloss over the fact that Smith got flattened on halfway in the build up. Picked himself up and got on the end of it. Probably too knackered to do owt else but swing at it. When Windass picks up Smith's pass, Smith is five yards inside our half, on his arse sliding the wrong way. 4 seconds later Roberto Carlos is wearing Michael Smith pyjamas. Beautiful 😁 8 4 Quote
mkowl Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 13 minutes ago, Skamp said: Meanwhile in a parallel universe I hope the humble pie is served cold with cream 10 day past its sell by date. Quote
mkowl Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 22 minutes ago, Bob Petrie said: Another goal that started with Beedle. sky seemed to gloss over the fact that Smith got flattened on halfway in the build up. Picked himself up and got on the end of it. Probably too knackered to do owt else but swing at it. I mean I do get frustrated at times where we fanny around at the back, inviting pressure and it seems to set the tone for the tempo. Glad that at 2 - 1 up there was maybe 2 passes before Beadle got it up the pitch. The key here is balance but mix it up as well. It is old school perhaps but you are a hell of a lot more dangerous playing football from 20 yards inside their half not from 20 yards the other way. But we got the control by having more composed footballers in J Lowe and Valery as options in the wide middle areas. 1 Quote
owl71 Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 52 minutes ago, Skamp said: Special mention to the travelling fans. What a noise they made on the south coast for a televised Friday night game. Thanks. We try. 😊 Quote
owl71 Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 Complete chalk and cheese performance. Jamal Lowe seemed to make a difference, we certainly got a lot of joy down that flank. Iorfa did well. Bannan more himself after a couple of quiet ones. Anyway 15 points. We only had 16 at Christmas last season. 🤣 Quote
TheExile Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 Feared for us at half time not just because of the game itself and our lack of any attacking pattern but the general effect of losing at the bottom of the league (even though it’s not an easy place to go). That second half really restored the faith and shows what a good manager we have. He can really change games. A nice start to the weekend 1 Quote
Theman Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 I think we are looking at a minimum 60 points this season 👍 Quote
dilts Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 Just got back, proverbial game of two halves, so much better when we played with pace, but they are poor. Top notch support, great noise. So this season, 2 matches 2 wins, think i need to see them more often......if only S6 wasn't 200 miles away 😄 4 Quote
Lee Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 A great win that From one down too, they may be poor and the table says so but if they'd won the table looks different. The championship is simply a war of attrition and we are in the bottom end of the mix. BUT things can change quickly. We WILL finish top half or perhaps better, it's work in progress. So good to score a couple, that gets all the strikers in the squad on their toes UTO Quote
TheExile Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 What was really noticeable about them, despite being at home, was just how they deflated once it started going against them. You could see the belief had gone for a good ten mins after each goal. Quote
mkowl Posted October 26, 2024 Posted October 26, 2024 Certainly better waking up with a win. I may ask the eldest as he never appeared for the 2nd half - I think he may have peaked early alcohol wise - so he may think we lost ! Quote
HoylandOwl Posted October 26, 2024 Author Posted October 26, 2024 While some may suggest a game of two halves, I don’t think it’s as violent a swing as that. I thought we were the better side in both halves, albeit less so in the first half. The injury to Famewo disjointed us a little, it seemed to. As prior to that, we were the better side, but like has been the case needed a goal. We’d been patient, maybe too much so and when it doesn’t click when we go forward, frustration feels like it starts to set in. Iorfa did well when he came on; I’m not saying he was the reason for going behind, we went behind after Musaba was so wasteful with the ball just inside our half, with a lazy looking pass inside which led to them breaking to get that FK, which Pol cleared then the corner. DR’s changes ahead of the 2nd half clearly had an impact, as we seemed to set our stall early. The first goal was well worked, and that spell around the first goal and leading into the 2nd from Bannan was as good as we’ve seen from him in a while. He just controlled the game with the ball. They couldn’t get the ball from us. And when they did eventually have it, they lost it, quickly, with our press absolutely squeezing the life out of them. That second goal was the just desserts for Smith, he worked so hard, the knockdown for the chance in the first half for Palmer, of course the setup for the leveller was quality. Then that finish. Wow. Absolute perfection. But props to him for the role he played in the build up too, holding off his man and keeping the ball moving to Windass beyond halfway. Pompey aren’t good, at all. They look so fragile, and reminded me a bit of us pre DR. But, that’s not our worry. A second successive, 2-1 win from behind on the road, deserved too. And is that now just one loss in 8? And into the top half…. Forward steps. A lot to be pleased about. Quote
mkowl Posted October 26, 2024 Posted October 26, 2024 The key is playing in a way that can get Bannan and Charles doing their work in the opposition half, not taking it 10 yards outside our own area. It's way more dangerous attacking wise but if it does break down it's further from our goal. The post match interviews when asked about the HT transition it was about imposing control to play the football you want to play. The age old requirement of football. Our issue is that we run before we can walk, so we try and utilise players like Gassama and Musaba for their attacking skills but it all becomes disjointed as we can't get them into the game. It is not an easy solution, but the more solid midfield enabled us to get into position to be attack minded Quote
mkowl Posted October 26, 2024 Posted October 26, 2024 4 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: While some may suggest a game of two halves, I don’t think it’s as violent a swing as that. I thought we were the better side in both halves, albeit less so in the first half. The injury to Famewo disjointed us a little, it seemed to. As prior to that, we were the better side, but like has been the case needed a goal. We’d been patient, maybe too much so and when it doesn’t click when we go forward, frustration feels like it starts to set in. Iorfa did well when he came on; I’m not saying he was the reason for going behind, we went behind after Musaba was so wasteful with the ball just inside our half, with a lazy looking pass inside which led to them breaking to get that FK, which Pol cleared then the corner. DR’s changes ahead of the 2nd half clearly had an impact, as we seemed to set our stall early. The first goal was well worked, and that spell around the first goal and leading into the 2nd from Bannan was as good as we’ve seen from him in a while. He just controlled the game with the ball. They couldn’t get the ball from us. And when they did eventually have it, they lost it, quickly, with our press absolutely squeezing the life out of them. That second goal was the just desserts for Smith, he worked so hard, the knockdown for the chance in the first half for Palmer, of course the setup for the leveller was quality. Then that finish. Wow. Absolute perfection. But props to him for the role he played in the build up too, holding off his man and keeping the ball moving to Windass beyond halfway. Pompey aren’t good, at all. They look so fragile, and reminded me a bit of us pre DR. But, that’s not our worry. A second successive, 2-1 win from behind on the road, deserved too. And is that now just one loss in 8? And into the top half…. Forward steps. A lot to be pleased about. Goes back to my point, Musaba is a decent player IF we are in control of the game. With him starting or indeed Gassama or both and it's not blaming them, we seem to not get that control that would then get the best out of them. Chicken n egg As we showed, you don't need just attacking type players to be attacking Quote
Andyben Posted October 26, 2024 Posted October 26, 2024 I wouldn't be upset with a front 3 of Lowe, Smith Windass. Quote
KrolMong Posted October 26, 2024 Posted October 26, 2024 4 minutes ago, Andyben said: I wouldn't be upset with a front 3 of Lowe, Smith Windass. I think in certain games, that very much works. Lowe and Windass can play as proper wide forwards, they’ve done it a lot. Gassama, Musaba and Kobacki are wingers. Quote
Reesh Posted October 26, 2024 Posted October 26, 2024 12 hours ago, Theman said: Barry is immense 👍 Glad you used your post match time on the coach to post on here Mrs Bannan. Quote
holmesfield_owl Posted October 26, 2024 Posted October 26, 2024 Had a tenner at half time, skybet boosted us to 8/1 to win 2-1 so was an extra pleasant evening 2 Quote
HoylandOwl Posted October 26, 2024 Author Posted October 26, 2024 8 hours ago, mkowl said: Goes back to my point, Musaba is a decent player IF we are in control of the game. With him starting or indeed Gassama or both and it's not blaming them, we seem to not get that control that would then get the best out of them. Chicken n egg As we showed, you don't need just attacking type players to be attacking I’d argue Musaba needs to learn when to try the tricky tricky stuff, and when to pass. He’s got so much ability, that’s not in doubt. But his decision making is. Quote
Chelters Posted October 26, 2024 Posted October 26, 2024 21 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: I’d argue Musaba needs to learn when to try the tricky tricky stuff, and when to pass. He’s got so much ability, that’s not in doubt. But his decision making is. Musaba is absolutely maddening. Don’t think I’ve ever seen a player who gets 50:50 decisions wrong 95% of the time. Appreciate he’s still got loads of time to improve but so far this season he’s gone a bit backwards. Absolutely cannot play him against a high pressing team as he puts us under pressure constantly by losing possession in our own half. Quote
mkowl Posted October 26, 2024 Posted October 26, 2024 53 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: I’d argue Musaba needs to learn when to try the tricky tricky stuff, and when to pass. He’s got so much ability, that’s not in doubt. But his decision making is. The difference between a reasonable player and a good player is not your feet but between your ears. So that is decision making in one regard, but the level of confidence in another Daft we saw with Smith in the first half when he had time to think he took too long. His goal no time to dwell and hit it. Quote
Tylluan Posted October 26, 2024 Posted October 26, 2024 You could say that Musaba isn't suited to Championship football but would have no problem doing a job in Europe where he'd have more time. If he moved to the right club in Holland then he'd probably be in the Dutch squad by the next Euros Quote
KrolMong Posted October 26, 2024 Posted October 26, 2024 44 minutes ago, Tylluan said: You could say that Musaba isn't suited to Championship football but would have no problem doing a job in Europe where he'd have more time. If he moved to the right club in Holland then he'd probably be in the Dutch squad by the next Euros You know what Ty. I think Musaba and Gassama are both capable of being very good players in England. But oddly, for not the same reasons. Musaba, great distance ball carrier. Very quick. Decent finisher. Gassama, a pocket player, gets himself past people in tight spaces. Works very very hard. Both want to commit people. Weaknesses for both. They want to spin on a first touch everywhere. Reactionary defensive nouse. I like both, but I like Musaba as the out away from home. I like Gassama in a team that has a lot of ball. You can’t play both. 2 Quote
Harry Lime Posted October 26, 2024 Posted October 26, 2024 1 hour ago, KrolMong said: You can’t play both. I said this weeks ago. Against the right teams we can play one of them. They should never be in the same starting line up ever. They run up blind alleys and give the ball away too easily and they offer nothing in getting the ball back. At times, against the right sides we can give one a run out and maybe substitute one for the other but make no mistake, against one of the better sides they are hopeless. Great to watch them score the odd goal, it just doesn't happen often enough. Oh, anyone wondering, I'd be more than happy to be proved wrong, I will always support whoever turns out for us and I sincerely hope either of the two lads make me eat my words. Problem is, I'm not wrong. Quote
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