Swanning around to three points match thread

[mkowl]

The thing is we are not crap, but equally we are not world beaters. We are on par with 18 other teams in this division, the odd point separating most sides. 

If you have the parachute payments then you can get that extra quality where it matters, the rest are equally matched, the tactics are similar, it's hardly a shock matches are tight and can descend to stalemate. In the drive to win you may lose.

Always "interesting" to observe Stalk as their obsession with blaming Chansiri for us only having an average squad. Point is we are not talking about an extra 5m or 10m to make it a good squad but 10 times that.

And you get a Burnley, ok will be top 6 but hardly going to set the Premier League on fire. 

The reality check is how the Championship is. You only have to be 5% off and you will be bottom. 5% up maybe the edge of the play offs. 

But to stand out compared to Swansea, Preston, Bristol City et al is not that easy. 

[bradowl]

1 hour ago, mkowl said:

The thing is we are not crap, but equally we are not world beaters. We are on par with 18 other teams in this division, the odd point separating most sides. 

If you have the parachute payments then you can get that extra quality where it matters, the rest are equally matched, the tactics are similar, it's hardly a shock matches are tight and can descend to stalemate. In the drive to win you may lose.

Always "interesting" to observe Stalk as their obsession with blaming Chansiri for us only having an average squad. Point is we are not talking about an extra 5m or 10m to make it a good squad but 10 times that.

And you get a Burnley, ok will be top 6 but hardly going to set the Premier League on fire. 

The reality check is how the Championship is. You only have to be 5% off and you will be bottom. 5% up maybe the edge of the play offs. 

But to stand out compared to Swansea, Preston, Bristol City et al is not that easy. 

Spot on this. 

As for OwlsTalk Crap one muppet reckoned players didn't put enough effort in against Burnley and didn't look bothered  🙄

We might not be great at times but one thing for certain is that the players are giving everything for this manager and supporters. 

[Tylluan]

11 hours ago, mkowl said:

We look defensively ok, but there is just something lacking in us but frankly we are not unique in that regard.

What's missing is a confident goalscorer. I've always had the opinion that forwards need time to find a rhythm and the rest of the team need time to be on the same wavelength. I think one thing DR gets wrong is rotating his main forward when none of them play the same way, so how is the team supposed to adjust on 65 mins of every game. Last night was screaming for a switch to 2 up front. 

And there's no point in taking the Stalk approach of spunking money on a striker in January if you're not going to totally adjust to accommodate that player.

3 hours ago, mkowl said:

think the TV commentary pointed out that Swansea have the highest possession stats in the country - maybe just at EFL level - at over 60%. But then have not scored for over 4 matches. 

Williams' Notts County team was exactly the same. The only difference was Langstaff on the end of that possession. When he was injured they still had the same possession stats but no end product 

[owl4ever1867]

It's a point and I'll take it, these are the types of games over the years that we would've lost.

Onwards & upwards, we'll be just fine.

In Rohl we trust.

[holmesfield_owl]

3 hours ago, owl4ever1867 said:

It's a point and I'll take it, these are the types of games over the years that we would've lost.

Onwards & upwards, we'll be just fine.

In Rohl we trust.

Someone on an awful put In Rohl we trust - yeah right, Muppet.

He was quickly shot down

[Skamp]

26 minutes ago, holmesfield_owl said:

Someone on an awful put In Rohl we trust - yeah right, Muppet.

He was quickly shot down

what is this meant to mean in English please Holmesfield?  I guess you got distracted

[HoylandOwl]

 

[HoylandOwl]

10 hours ago, Tylluan said:

What's missing is a confident goalscorer. I've always had the opinion that forwards need time to find a rhythm and the rest of the team need time to be on the same wavelength. I think one thing DR gets wrong is rotating his main forward when none of them play the same way, so how is the team supposed to adjust on 65 mins of every game. Last night was screaming for a switch to 2 up front. 

And there's no point in taking the Stalk approach of spunking money on a striker in January if you're not going to totally adjust to accommodate that player.

Williams' Notts County team was exactly the same. The only difference was Langstaff on the end of that possession. When he was injured they still had the same possession stats but no end product 

Jamal Lowe looked ok I thought last night and should have had a pen. Had a few very confident touches around the box, but like almost all our players at the moment… needs a goal. 
 

[Owling_Wolf]

12 hours ago, bradowl said:

Spot on this. 

As for OwlsTalk Crap one muppet reckoned players didn't put enough effort in against Burnley and didn't look bothered  🙄

We might not be great at times but one thing for certain is that the players are giving everything for this manager and supporters. 

I have to say, Brad, I twice last night saw an Owls player not bother: only for a moment but they just let an opponent go past with the ball. It didn't obviously affect the game but it certainly affected me!  I've had a sleep since then but I remember one of the occurrences: J. Lowe very shortly before he was withdrawn, near the north touchline, perhaps just the Kop side of halfway.  I almost wish he'd felt something and not challenged, and that's why he'd been taken off. Otherwise it seemed out of character.  

[Tank_Owl2,0]

There’s some right bellends follow this club, but so do other clubs.

There’s a bloke sits somewhere behind me on the North that basically whines all game and slates the team. He never shut up last night, saying they weren’t trying, should get stuck in, press them etc. Feckin clown never thought that might be suicidal against a possession team like Swansea.

It wasn’t pretty but I never think the team are trying under DR.

[TheExile]

On 23/10/2024 at 06:45, mkowl said:

The thing is we are not crap, but equally we are not world beaters. We are on par with 18 other teams in this division, the odd point separating most sides. 

If you have the parachute payments then you can get that extra quality where it matters, the rest are equally matched, the tactics are similar, it's hardly a shock matches are tight and can descend to stalemate. In the drive to win you may lose.

Always "interesting" to observe Stalk as their obsession with blaming Chansiri for us only having an average squad. Point is we are not talking about an extra 5m or 10m to make it a good squad but 10 times that.

And you get a Burnley, ok will be top 6 but hardly going to set the Premier League on fire. 

The reality check is how the Championship is. You only have to be 5% off and you will be bottom. 5% up maybe the edge of the play offs. 

But to stand out compared to Swansea, Preston, Bristol City et al is not that easy. 

Yeah the only way we break this cycle is by generating some cash from player sales which is also a lot harder now given PL sides no longer take a punt at decent money due to thier own constraints with FFP. Nonetheless bringing young and saleable assets through is probably our only option.

I get the point from many fans re ticket prices which are very high and I think we need to see if DC is putting in the maximum he can. But what often gets forgotten is that even if we hike prices and get income similar to what we did when Fletcher was up front and a turnover over 20m or so, the quality we had in the team at the time still gave us a net loss of two or three times that and it was fatal for P&S. Never going to be able to see big investment again into the team without some kind of new income. The best we could do is invest heavily on infrastructure 

Edited October 24, 2024 by TheExile

[HoylandOwl]

10 hours ago, Tank_Owl2,0 said:

There’s some right bellends follow this club, but so do other clubs.

There’s a bloke sits somewhere behind me on the North that basically whines all game and slates the team. He never shut up last night, saying they weren’t trying, should get stuck in, press them etc. Feckin clown never thought that might be suicidal against a possession team like Swansea.

It wasn’t pretty but I never think the team are trying under DR.

Speaking of fan reactions etc…Had some funny folks behind us lately, as in comedic not weird.

The Lino last Saturday got some right shit, but his reaction was fantastic. He was getting pelters for offsides, throw ins, being called shit etc. The Lino was a big bloke, just kept looking over at the folks giving him shit and laughing, even at one point when they called for a throw he looked at them and clearly said, it never went out. Smiled and just got on with it. He even laughed with them at one point when they poked him a little more. It was good to see it was taken in the manner it was meant. 
 

[KrolMong]

We should have won.

We are currently struggling because our strikers are all a mile off being good enough and simply aren’t giving opposition centre backs a moment of discomfort.

We look solid defensively, we have threats out wide, we are progressive in position but we have issues when the ball goes in the box. We put three tap in crosses in and there wasn’t a forward near any of them.

We need one to find form immediately otherwise we need to bomb a couple out, bring Bailey back and try and find someone we know will get 1 in 2 in the second half of the season.

[holmesfield_owl]

18 hours ago, Skamp said:

what is this meant to mean in English please Holmesfield?  I guess you got distracted

Someone on an awful swfc Facebook page, it was meant to say

[owl71]

10 hours ago, KrolMong said:

We should have won.

We are currently struggling because our strikers are all a mile off being good enough and simply aren’t giving opposition centre backs a moment of discomfort.

We look solid defensively, we have threats out wide, we are progressive in position but we have issues when the ball goes in the box. We put three tap in crosses in and there wasn’t a forward near any of them.

We need one to find form immediately otherwise we need to bomb a couple out, bring Bailey back and try and find someone we know will get 1 in 2 in the second half of the season.

Pretty much this.  We have a lot of players in the “needs a goal” category at the moment.  Everything looks at lot healthier than it did at this stage last season though.  Somebody hits a purple patch and we’re on the edge of the play off race by Christmas.