HoylandOwl Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 As my thread wasn’t the absolute horror in terms of making us lose last weekend… I’ll have to set up this one too. Thats how it works, right? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmesfield_owl Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 2-0 to the Wednesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 We need to be Robin 3 points on the road so may as well start here. No more titting about with one of the Bristols eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 Can see is having an absolute Weston to be honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 Missing my first league game of season tomorrow so expect us to win 5-0. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 22 minutes ago, bradowl said: Missing my first league game of season tomorrow so expect us to win 5-0. 🙂 Rules of your tag pal? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vialli Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 1 hour ago, Reesh said: Rules of your tag pal? Wrong person mate 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 8 minutes ago, Vialli said: Wrong person mate 🤔 What's he done now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted October 2 Author Share Posted October 2 MATCH PACK THINGY... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted October 2 Author Share Posted October 2 Head to head wise, we're a way in front.... 31 wins to 19. 16 Draws. At their place... Last time we won.... 28 June 2020. Connor Wickham and Massimo Luongo bagged our goals in a 2-1 win.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vialli Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 21 hours ago, Reesh said: What's he done now? Ask him😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted Wednesday at 18:03 Author Share Posted Wednesday at 18:03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Winco Posted Wednesday at 18:37 Share Posted Wednesday at 18:37 23 hours ago, Vialli said: Wrong person mate 🤔 22 hours ago, Reesh said: What's he done now? 😢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted Wednesday at 18:47 Share Posted Wednesday at 18:47 9 minutes ago, Winco said: 😢 Tears from being bummed in your cell pal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted Wednesday at 19:16 Share Posted Wednesday at 19:16 Terrific defending there by Famewo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted Wednesday at 19:29 Share Posted Wednesday at 19:29 41 minutes ago, Reesh said: Tears from being bummed in your cell pal? Tears or tears? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted Wednesday at 19:29 Share Posted Wednesday at 19:29 12 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: Terrific defending there by Famewo. Player of the Month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted Wednesday at 19:53 Share Posted Wednesday at 19:53 So umm, again a very frustrating away performance as I am just not convinced how we set up is conducive to creating them problems and not put us under pressure It's a skill to appear outnumbered in all areas of the pitch whereever on the pitch the ball is. The front 3 are offering very little individually or collectively. Their defence does not seem under pressure, which allows them to control the midfield centrally but have overloads out wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted Wednesday at 20:02 Share Posted Wednesday at 20:02 I do wonder if Musaba got the nod because he scored the winning tap in on Saturday but his stats aren't exactly dynamic. Kobacki offers a much more rounded performance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted Wednesday at 20:23 Share Posted Wednesday at 20:23 19 minutes ago, Tylluan said: I do wonder if Musaba got the nod because he scored the winning tap in on Saturday Really? You'd have thought the commentators might have mentioned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelters Posted Wednesday at 20:25 Share Posted Wednesday at 20:25 Their players are very well coached in going down to win soft free kicks. And another ref who doesn’t have the balls to stand up to it, easier to just give them and have a quiet life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted Wednesday at 20:53 Share Posted Wednesday at 20:53 Good away point in the end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted Wednesday at 20:56 Share Posted Wednesday at 20:56 Well we didn't lose at least But a game as dull as they get and why the season should be 42 games - the number of midweek games that are shite is pretty high because teams play within themselves conserving for the next game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBO Posted Wednesday at 21:00 Share Posted Wednesday at 21:00 By that logic teams would play within themselves on weekend games to conserve for the midweek game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Lime Posted Wednesday at 21:03 Share Posted Wednesday at 21:03 Good point. Hope Kobacki's injury is not too bad, did he hurt himself trying to get on the end of that cross. Palmer as well, hope he's OK. Thought we were fortunate to get in level at HT. Bernard MOM for me just in front of Beadle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted Wednesday at 21:09 Share Posted Wednesday at 21:09 Very poor first half and a bit lucky to go in level at half time, improved second half and looked more solid at back, we could have nicked it towards end but draw probably a fair result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted Wednesday at 21:10 Share Posted Wednesday at 21:10 5 minutes ago, JBO said: By that logic teams would play within themselves on weekend games to conserve for the midweek game. The point being the 4 extra games, all midweek ones, simply do not add to the quality of the league. It becomes the grind they talk about, particularly this week for us with 2 away games back to back. Barely a murmur from the crowd all game, lots of empty home seats, I doubt we sold out. Less is more for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted Wednesday at 21:11 Share Posted Wednesday at 21:11 4 minutes ago, Harry Lime said: Good point. Hope Kobacki's injury is not too bad, did he hurt himself trying to get on the end of that cross. Palmer as well, hope he's OK. Thought we were fortunate to get in level at HT. Bernard MOM for me just in front of Beadle. Yes Bernard MOM - his best of the season. Him and Famewo looking like a solid pairing. Back to a back four going forward? Pol and Smith made a positive difference . Ugbo (again) and Musaba passengers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheat Posted Wednesday at 21:11 Share Posted Wednesday at 21:11 How did the Valentin for Palmer change pan out? Straight swap? Or Valery to RCB and Valentin to RWB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted Wednesday at 21:14 Share Posted Wednesday at 21:14 45 minutes ago, Skamp said: Really? You'd have thought the commentators might have mentioned it. Wasn't listening or watching but checked the live stats at half time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted Wednesday at 21:18 Share Posted Wednesday at 21:18 1 minute ago, bradowl said: Very poor first half and a bit lucky to go in level at half time, improved second half and looked more solid at back, we could have nicked it towards end but draw probably a fair result. We were passive first half, especially the front 3. Ugbo looks way down on last season. Musaba is fast becoming a player that can only make an impact off the bench. And Windass is chalk n cheese as we know. As a result neither wing back could get forward, midfield was out numbered and there was way too much space out wide. It's like we get it back to front. I mean I would like Smith to start at the weekend, occupy the defence a bit, and then maybe bring on pace to exploit the space and tiring defenders. A game that if we had conceded first was a likely defeat, indeed any away game, we don't seem to get it right to start the match 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyOwl Posted Wednesday at 21:20 Share Posted Wednesday at 21:20 I’d like to see Valentin start at rwb with Valery in a cb. His driving runs are something that nobody else in the team can really do. Ugbo has been anonymous all season and fair play to Smith he has been much better than him which I don’t think anyone really would’ve said pre season. Bernard MOTM really solid performance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted Wednesday at 22:07 Share Posted Wednesday at 22:07 Yeah the 22 minutes when Valentin was rwb and Kobacki outside left, or whatever, was by far our best spell of the match going forward. No doubt he’ll be out for three months. Still you start with the nil, as the wise people say, and we kept a clean sheet away from home. Averaging two points a game for the past two games. Is that the sound of the Championship shitting itself? No. A lot better than a three goal defeat at Millwall though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Owl Posted Thursday at 03:37 Share Posted Thursday at 03:37 That was arguably Bernards best game in a Wednesday shirt. I thought it was a bit harsh for Ihekwe to be dropped since he didn't do much wrong Saturday but Bernard was fantastic. Palmer going off injured at half time was the game changer as we looked a lot more solid defensively 2nd half. There was quite a bit of space that City almost took advantage from between Palmer and Valery - especially the header that Beadle made a decent save from. That went in the 2nd half once Valentin was a RWB and Valery dropped to the right centre back role. I noticed Manning switched Yu to that side thinking they'd exploit the space but that never materialised. There were a couple of times where Famewo in particular almost gifted them opportunities with his passing but thankfully they never materialised. Only other time I recall them getting behind us was at the end where Sykes shot straight at Beadle. Wasn't impressed with Musaba or Windass, Ugbo just fed off scraps all night. It got better once Gassama, Kobacki and Smith came on. Decent point away from home in the event and a clean sheet. Can't complain about those at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted Thursday at 05:25 Share Posted Thursday at 05:25 The Palmer substitution certainly strengthened us defensively and made us more positive going forward. Hope the injury's not too innocuous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted Thursday at 05:40 Share Posted Thursday at 05:40 A point away is never a bad thing, granted it wasn't a great watch but after being robbed at Luton and overwhelmed at Sunderland and comfortably beaten at Millwall it is a step in the right direction. If we get a result on Saturday then.5-7 points from this run of fixtures to the break would be pretty acceptable to most people, perhaps not Röhl as he demands better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mkowl Posted Thursday at 06:17 Share Posted Thursday at 06:17 The BBC website sums it up well, a shot shy stalemate with us fairly subdued compared to the West Brom game. The entire match felt subdued though, be interesting from those that went whether it was like that in the stadium itself. These 3 match weeks seem to throw out these type of games, perhaps the Championship being 18-20 well matched teams is conducive to teams simply cancelling each other out tactically, being risk averse. You just feel this squad can offer more attacking threat, but it dare not as it creates jeopardy for the defence. The problem in the first half was that the set up lead to zero attacking threat and no defensive solidity either. I would still prefer us to go 3 5 2 in these away games first half in particular Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted Thursday at 08:57 Share Posted Thursday at 08:57 The atmosphere was completely plastic. They’ve gone down the road of a stadium announcer giving it the big build up and a “singing section” that didn’t do much singing. Children with free tickets sat near the away fans so zero banter. Don’t even play Drink Up Thy Zyder anymore. It was always a bit of a strange away day, now it’s strange in an uninteresting way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted Thursday at 10:23 Share Posted Thursday at 10:23 I’ve watched it this morning. First half, Bristol came out very quickly and just played a high tempo and direct game. Neither side involved the middle of the pitch and because they were a bit more energetic they got at us wide and just launched it in the box. It wasn’t pretty, but it was effective. What was really key was they bypassed the press, which did force us back (especially the front three). I actually thought Valery and Palmer were both poor, Valery because he wasn’t stopping crosses, and Palmer because he was getting attracted centrally. But, centrally, with Bernard and Famewo, and Charles and Bannan, we did a really good job of stopping the traffic down the middle and where possible, forcing Bristol left where they had far less joy. Windass, Ugbo and Musaba really struggled, and more concerningly, it wasn’t sticking even when there wasn’t pressure. Second half, last 20 minutes, we were on top. The press worked, Kobacki caused issues, we got up the pitch. It stuck to Smith, Valentin was more of threat wide and Bannan and Charles took control. I have a good idea on what our strongest 11 is right now (and I say right now because we have a good squad and a player out of form can be benched). But what has pleased me this past month is that we look far more resolute and tough and had it not been for a series of bad refereeing decisions, we would be four points better off. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank_Owl2,0 Posted Thursday at 12:24 Share Posted Thursday at 12:24 15 hours ago, mkowl said: We were passive first half, especially the front 3. Ugbo looks way down on last season. Musaba is fast becoming a player that can only make an impact off the bench. And Windass is chalk n cheese as we know. As a result neither wing back could get forward, midfield was out numbered and there was way too much space out wide. It's like we get it back to front. I mean I would like Smith to start at the weekend, occupy the defence a bit, and then maybe bring on pace to exploit the space and tiring defenders. A game that if we had conceded first was a likely defeat, indeed any away game, we don't seem to get it right to start the match I only saw the second half. I think we have improved since the Sunderland game in defence and midfield but there seems to be very little cohesion in our strikers - whoever it is. They all have some quality but there’s no indication of how they get the best from one another. J Lowe may not have set the world alight but I’m surprised he hasn’t been used a bit more. Bristol seemed very much there for the taking we just didn’t seriously look like scoring which is a worry for the games ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExile Posted Thursday at 13:47 Share Posted Thursday at 13:47 We have a history of getting a beating down at Bristol and at Plymouth so I always feel any result at either of those places is positive regardless of performance. It was one of those games where I felt if we had a poveda or someone we might have nicked it as it just needed some individual quality on the counter. Musabas cross in the second half really summed us up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted Thursday at 14:59 Author Share Posted Thursday at 14:59 1 hour ago, TheExile said: We have a history of getting a beating down at Bristol and at Plymouth so I always feel any result at either of those places is positive regardless of performance. It was one of those games where I felt if we had a poveda or someone we might have nicked it as it just needed some individual quality on the counter. Musabas cross in the second half really summed us up. A Poveda? Why would we want someone who's always injured ? We've had our fill of those buggers. 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExile Posted Friday at 19:15 Share Posted Friday at 19:15 On 03/10/2024 at 15:59, HoylandOwl said: A Poveda? Why would we want someone who's always injured ? We've had our fill of those buggers. 😉 Not specifically poveda but that kind of individual who plays in those awkward spaces and makes things happen. We’ve had a few over the years but only briefly 😁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted Saturday at 06:24 Share Posted Saturday at 06:24 11 hours ago, TheExile said: Not specifically poveda but that kind of individual who plays in those awkward spaces and makes things happen. We’ve had a few over the years but only briefly 😁 We've got one in Gassama but he's still a bit raw and learning. I would also say Kobacki could fill a similar role as he's equally effective with both feet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted Saturday at 08:08 Share Posted Saturday at 08:08 1 hour ago, Tylluan said: We've got one in Gassama but he's still a bit raw and learning. I would also say Kobacki could fill a similar role as he's equally effective with both feet. He’s a player is Kobacki, isn’t he? As I said when we signed him, he was really good last season. It was a bit of a coup getting him as he was guaranteed European football with two clubs who were after him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted Saturday at 12:46 Share Posted Saturday at 12:46 4 hours ago, KrolMong said: He’s a player is Kobacki, isn’t he? He's my new favourite player. It's his business and willingness that gets me. He's more direct than Musaba but does seem to glide past people. He tracks back better than Musaba as well. At the QPR game I spent 15 mins just watching him and the amount of runs he made that weren't picked up but dragged the full back out to allow inside moves. I also love the understanding him and Marv has as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul from Wisewood Posted Saturday at 16:18 Share Posted Saturday at 16:18 Talking of robins… have that mark you twat 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted yesterday at 07:23 Share Posted yesterday at 07:23 (edited) Imagine this at Hillsborough? the Star, the Mail and the EFL would have a birthday. Edited yesterday at 07:24 by Skamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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