24/25 Wednesday transfer thread

[HoylandOwl]

Reed was a second half sub last night for the Pilgrims in a 4-0 loss against Oldham. 

[Andyben]

1 hour ago, Reesh said:

Sam Reed joins Boston on loan

Cheers Reesh

[Tylluan]

Be interesting to see what Graham Coughlan does with him. Be also interesting to see how Sam reacts. He's used to lower level football but he's walked into a relegation fight and he'll be up against some seasoned pros. 

Boston's top scorer this season is Jacob Hazel, Des' son. 

[Owling_Wolf]

4 hours ago, HoylandOwl said:

Reed was a second half sub last night for the Pilgrims in a 4-0 loss against Oldham. 

Was confused for a moment. Still can't take in Oldham being out of the League.  

[DirtyOwl]

Evan Ferguson apparently free to go on loan from Brighton. 

I’m probably in dreamland as IIRC they wanted 120m for him a few years back but we seem to be on good terms with Brighton. Could we tempt him? 

[HoylandOwl]

2 minutes ago, DirtyOwl said:

Evan Ferguson apparently free to go on loan from Brighton. 

I’m probably in dreamland as IIRC they wanted 120m for him a few years back but we seem to be on good terms with Brighton. Could we tempt him? 

Bloody hell. If that was even a sniff of an option. All over it like a rash 

[Andyben]

16 minutes ago, DirtyOwl said:

Evan Ferguson apparently free to go on loan from Brighton. 

I’m probably in dreamland as IIRC they wanted 120m for him a few years back but we seem to be on good terms with Brighton. Could we tempt him? 

More likely to go to Man  City on loan than us 

[Reesh]

32 minutes ago, Andyben said:

More likely to go to Man  City on loan than us 

Be interesting if we were to test the waters, especially given that message i sent you this morning

[HoylandOwl]

Wednesday give triallist pro deal.

https://www.swfc.co.uk/news/2024/november/29/kamwa-signs-professional-owls-contract/

[Tylluan]

Real name Donald. 

Got a deceptive turn of pace and a few tricks but plays the right ball when it's needed instead of over elaborating.

Had a few Premier League clubs looking when he was in Bradford's u16s 

 

Edited November 29 by Tylluan

[TheExile]

Did he choose to leave Bradford as he looks like someone they could have made use of 

[Skamp]

Sounds good that we snap him up and see what develops quick as a flash.

[Tylluan]

10 hours ago, TheExile said:

Did he choose to leave Bradford as he looks like someone they could have made use of 

He was let go. 

Bradford don't have an u18s or u21s. They have an u16 then it jumps straight to an u19s that play as an A team playing a mixture of u18, u21, and hybrid teams and in the u21 cups.

Kamwa was attracting a lot of attention at u16 and they were hoping to move him on but it never came to fruition. 

[HoylandOwl]

Hopefully their loss equals our gain then

[Andyben]

Louis Barry on loan in Jan?

Being recalled by Villa for a championship team in second half of season.

I'd rather give McNeill a good crack at it 

[Tylluan]

Middlesbrough in the driving seat to land him but they're welcome to him. Barry has hit a run of form at Stockport but couldn't hit a cows arse with banjo in his other loan spells. 

He could also be fully out the door in January. Villa weighing up whether to take advantage of his current form and Tottenham are sniffing. Villa are also looking to take Joshua Zirkzee from Old Trafford so that would push Barry further down the pecking order. 

[Tylluan]

[HoylandOwl]

Pierce Charles attracting prem interest…

 

[Gamblor]

Prem clubs sign promising Championship players for £15m-£20m now, but Charles isn’t playing every week yet. I think interest now would be an attempt to get him for much cheaper than he could be worth in a year. 

[Reesh]

Miller and Crann don't like the fanbase to be content, always posting up stories or truth be told regurgitating their old stuff to put fans on edge.

Still at least it's better than Cranns weekly Wednesday away day sell out dirge

[Teddy Nickelarse]

16 minutes ago, Reesh said:

Miller and Crann don't like the fanbase to be content, always posting up stories or truth be told regurgitating their old stuff to put fans on edge.

Still at least it's better than Cranns weekly Wednesday away day sell out dirge

Don't mind Miller as a rule; Staton is another matter.

[HoylandOwl]

Realistically, if Pierce Charles was to go. What would you say is a ‘sale worthy’ amount?

Personally, I think we should keep him as I really see him as being our number 1 next season and going forward.

[Reesh]

4m plus at this stage.

[Andyben]

39 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said:

Realistically, if Pierce Charles was to go. What would you say is a ‘sale worthy’ amount?

Personally, I think we should keep him as I really see him as being our number 1 next season and going forward.

15m plus 20% sell on 

[HoylandOwl]

37 minutes ago, Reesh said:

4m plus at this stage.

Yeah, I’d say if we were to get anywhere near 4/5m as a starting point we’d be hard pressed to not take it.

[Tylluan]

There are always scouts at lower end international matches looking for nuggets. It's how Valencia picked up Giorgi Mamardashvili. He was on loan in the Georgia 2nd division at the time. 

There is interest in Charles but you'd expect it after his Northern Ireland performances. 

Transfer fee wise we could get fucked over as we picked him up for free as a 16 year old and he's only spent 3 years in our academy system. If a transfer fee can't be agreed and he's adamant he's going then, being 19, he'd come under the tribunal system as he's still registered with our 21s. Any tribunal would probably set £2-£2.5m with a sell on clause. He's not a regular first team starter and we have Ben Hamer so we're not having to replace him immediately. All this is taken into consideration. 

If there's an offer then it's got to be a contract that takes him until he's 25 and he has to consider the following. If he's going to a 'big' club then he'll just be loan fodder as they look to make money on him. If he goes as a back up then how long is he going to wait until he gets a chance. If he goes to a relegation threatened club then what's the point. 

I'm with Tee in that I think he'll be pushing for our first choice slot and that's got to be sold to him but I don't think it would be a hard sell. He has a decent season as our number 1, cements his place in NI's goal, and then we can start talking Beadle numbers. 

Just on Beadle, Brighton are already looking at loan options for next season. We're not on the list. They may even decide to cash in on his form for us. van Nistelrooy wants Kelleher in the summer but may move for Beadle.  

[Otto_Man]

How much would Brighton likely want Ty? I know we can't afford him, just interested in what he'd be worth

[owl4ever1867]

2 hours ago, HoylandOwl said:

Realistically, if Pierce Charles was to go. What would you say is a ‘sale worthy’ amount?

Personally, I think we should keep him as I really see him as being our number 1 next season and going forward.

He should be our No1 next season imo Tee.

[Tylluan]

1 hour ago, Otto_Man said:

How much would Brighton likely want Ty? I know we can't afford him, just interested in what he'd be worth

Brighton paid Charlton £450k for him when he was 17. There's also a sell on clause rumoured to be between 15-20%. 

Being only 20 he's another one who's fee could be determined by tribunal. He's contracted to 2028 but has constantly been out on loan and that would be taken into consideration. But so would the fact he's been a regular first choice in the Championship. 

If it was sorted between the clubs then I reckon £10-12m. If it was set by tribunal then half that. 

Edited Thursday at 22:05 by Tylluan

[EastCraigsOwl]

13 hours ago, Tylluan said:

Transfer fee wise we could get fucked over as we picked him up for free as a 16 year old and he's only spent 3 years in our academy system. If a transfer fee can't be agreed and he's adamant he's going then, being 19, he'd come under the tribunal system as he's still registered with our 21s. Any tribunal would probably set £2-£2.5m with a sell on clause. He's not a regular first team starter and we have Ben Hamer so we're not having to replace him immediately. All this is taken into consideration.

Probably an extremely silly suggestion but would it be worth binning Beadle in January and immediately promoting Charles to first choice, therefore improving his squad status / transfer value?

Personally, I wouldn't go for that option. I think he needs regular first team football, presumably on loan somewhere for the second part of the season. However, given what you said above, do you think it could be something the club would consider?

[KrolMong]

It’s an interesting topic.

The reality is that unless we get to the premier league, or get significant investment, it’s unlikely we get Beadle permanently. I can see a lower end Prem or relegated prem team taking a punt in the same way that Burnley did for James Trafford.

That means next season, Charles has to be inline to take the number one shirt. Which in turn increases his value because he’s getting first team experience.

Id even suggest there might be an opp to loan him out into the division below for half a season from Jan under a guaranteed start type deal and with the intention that Rohl tells him that he gets the number one jersey next season.

[Reesh]

30 minutes ago, KrolMong said:

It’s an interesting topic.

The reality is that unless we get to the premier league, or get significant investment, it’s unlikely we get Beadle permanently. I can see a lower end Prem or relegated prem team taking a punt in the same way that Burnley did for James Trafford.

That means next season, Charles has to be inline to take the number one shirt. Which in turn increases his value because he’s getting first team experience.

Id even suggest there might be an opp to loan him out into the division below for half a season from Jan under a guaranteed start type deal and with the intention that Rohl tells him that he gets the number one jersey next season.

Beadle went from being an academy keeper to being highly valued in the championship by spending six months out at Oxford in League One before joining us, I want Charles out on loan to League One this must be, as you say, with guaranteed game time, I suspect he was set to go in the first half of the season but for the injury to Hamer. 

 

Edited yesterday at 11:27 by Reesh

[HoylandOwl]

14 hours ago, owl4ever1867 said:

He should be our No1 next season imo Tee.

I said as much earlier pal, and I think he will be, but for a substantial offer in the January window.

[HoylandOwl]

Fusire …. To be a loanee….. 

 

[HoylandOwl]

There’s talk of Liverpool being one of the clubs monitoring Pierce Charles. 

[Reesh]

41 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said:

There’s talk of Liverpool being one of the clubs monitoring Pierce Charles. 

Fuck em 40m and repatriation for two trips to Europe they cost us.

[Andyben]

1 hour ago, HoylandOwl said:

There’s talk of Liverpool being one of the clubs monitoring Pierce Charles. 

Back of the line for them.

Mind you, they'd probably still push in to the front 

[TheExile]

If Charles signed a new deal in May then at least we have options. I think he’s worth more in 12 months time all being well. But is the interest only there because he may be cheaper now and has potential. 

[Tylluan]

1 hour ago, TheExile said:

If Charles signed a new deal in May then at least we have options. I think he’s worth more in 12 months time all being well. But is the interest only there because he may be cheaper now and has potential. 

Yes 

[Tylluan]

5 hours ago, HoylandOwl said:

There’s talk of Liverpool being one of the clubs monitoring Pierce Charles. 

Liverpool have 7 goalkeepers split across their u18s and u21s including a 17 year old who jumped straight from 16s to 21s and is expected to be a first team contender before he's 21. 

Alisson refused to go to Saudi last year and signed a contract extension. Kelleher wants to leave to be a No1 but he's getting replaced by Mamardashvili. Jaros has also signed an extension and is content to sit as 3rd choice and either go on loan again or cover if Kelleher leaves and Mamardashvili goes back out on loan. Mamardashvili is seen as the long term investment as Alisson won't have his contract renewed in 2026.

So where Charles would fit into that I've no idea. 

[Andyben]

1 hour ago, Tylluan said:

So where Charles would fit into that I've no idea. 

Earn his tfr fee back in loan fees for next 5 seasons before a £2m sale to Fulham with 25% sell in clause after one appearance in the league cup.

[Reesh]

17 minutes ago, Andyben said:

 

What I think re Pierce is that he came from a club where his pathway was blocked by multiple other players ahead of him to a club where he's earned international honours and has improved as a player and where, at 19, he could be No1 soon...