HoylandOwl Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: XM: It's important that I believe in the players. I know we need to improve. I know right now we don't have the quality but I know how hard they work. I'll continue until my last day. When I arrived it was not an easy situation. This comment from him has tipped me right over the top. We don't have the quality..... YOU BROUGHT THE PLAYERS IN. I'll continue till my last day..... I HOPE YOU'VE HAD IT. When I arrived it was not an easy situation..... ZERO accountability for the situation the team find themselves in. Get him gone. Absolute clown. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 XM: Physically the team is ready but we need to improve. We are in this moment and this dynamic. All I can say is sorry for this moment and what we are. I'm proud of the players and I know how hard they are working. Tomorrow we have a full day and I go full power ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 55 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: I am not sure ours will come this calendar year Cheerful sod! 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 27 minutes ago, Winco said: I’ll never agree to get DC out cause we’re fucked without him but now I’m all for Xisco going. shambles. Spot on, though I'd draw the line at "never". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 30 minutes ago, HappyOwl said: Lot of em can just fuck off absolute shambles and an embarrassment to the badge if he’s not gone by the time I get off the coach I’m burning the twattin stadium down fuckin fuming 😡 Ditto, Hap, apart from the bit about arson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, Owling_Wolf said: Cheerful sod! 🤣 Realistic based on what I have seen sadly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Harder than you thought it would be? No. XM: My experience at Watford we had success and this one (job) is more difficult. But this is the life and this is why they signed me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExile Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Why does he keep talking about working on something they can’t do? There are some very limited teams in this league that get some results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winco Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Oh well there’d be nowt to talk about if we was winning all the time! xisco is obviously ducked but did he actually have any day in the signings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 28 minutes ago, Paul from Wisewood said: Chansiri out xisco Out tits out They were stood behind me this afternoon, Paul. The "tits". Absolutely obnoxious gobshite bastards. Nearly two hours of sickening scumbags enjoying themselves in the midst of a Wednesday tragedy. As if it wasn't bad enough without. 🤬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 The swift change though, "we were going for it" mantra from Chansiri to the "we just hope to stay in the league" Let's be honest most of us thought the former was not feasible, but even I didn't think the struggles to be near the required level to survive would be so short 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 What an utterly futile performance. The only thing is if some change comes from it. Goals absolutely self inflicted. Some of those out there today weren't even properly trying even before the goals. And the goalkeeper's insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Watch this...... Laughing when he's told people were chanting for him to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrolMong Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 We’ve got a coach who isn’t doing any coaching and is making Jos and Monk look like Sir Alex and Pep. We’ve signed a group of players who are simply not up to this level which is added to a group of players from last season who are not good enough for this level, and we have a forward line that is categorically not good enough for this division. You add them all together and you have a team that a fully deserving of being bottom of the league, because every team we have played this season has had extended spells of dominance. I maintained throughout the window that we needed proven Championship quality, and we needed to spend big on a striker. We did neither. The investment in the squad is down to the owner and his advisors. The players we have signed is down to the coach, the owner and his advisors, and the way we are playing, is down to the coach, his staff and the players. None of it is working. It’s a shambles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 I said at the start of the season he shouldn't be judged until after 10 league games. I now think it should be 8. Time to go but doubt Chansiri can afford the payoff for him and all his staff. If Warnock were to be unveiled as boss on Monday on a short contract contract I'd be happy. Our situation is exactly the type where he excels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted September 23, 2023 Author Share Posted September 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, KrolMong said: We’ve got a coach who isn’t doing any coaching and is making Jos and Monk look like Sir Alex and Pep. We’ve signed a group of players who are simply not up to this level which is added to a group of players from last season who are not good enough for this level, and we have a forward line that is categorically not good enough for this division. You add them all together and you have a team that a fully deserving of being bottom of the league, because every team we have played this season has had extended spells of dominance. I maintained throughout the window that we needed proven Championship quality, and we needed to spend big on a striker. We did neither. The investment in the squad is down to the owner and his advisors. The players we have signed is down to the coach, the owner and his advisors, and the way we are playing, is down to the coach, his staff and the players. None of it is working. It’s a shambles. But apart from that mate, we should be OK yeah? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winco Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: I said at the start of the season he shouldn't be judged until after 10 league games. I now think it should be 8. Time to go but doubt Chansiri can afford the payoff for him and all his staff. If Warnock were to be unveiled as boss on Monday on a short contract contract I'd be happy. Our situation is exactly the type where he excels. Fuck me. obsessed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 I said at the start of the season he shouldn't be judged until after 10 league games. I now think it should be 8. Time to go but doubt Chansiri can afford the payoff for him and all his staff. If Warnock were to be unveiled as boss on Monday on a short contract contract I'd be happy. Our situation is exactly the type where he excels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) Duplicate post. Apologies. Edited September 23, 2023 by Teddy Nickelarse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: I said at the start of the season he shouldn't be judged until after 10 league games. I now think it should be 8. Time to go but doubt Chansiri can afford the payoff for him and all his staff. If Warnock were to be unveiled as boss on Monday on a short contract contract I'd be happy. Our situation is exactly the type where he excels. You didn't need to post it twice to make your point mate. 🙂 And, technically it is 10 games. In all competitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted September 23, 2023 Author Share Posted September 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: I said at the start of the season he shouldn't be judged until after 10 league games. I now think it should be 8. Time to go but doubt Chansiri can afford the payoff for him and all his staff. If Warnock were to be unveiled as boss on Monday on a short contract contract I'd be happy. Our situation is exactly the type where he excels. 1 minute ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: I said at the start of the season he shouldn't be judged until after 10 league games. I now think it should be 8. Time to go but doubt Chansiri can afford the payoff for him and all his staff. If Warnock were to be unveiled as boss on Monday on a short contract contract I'd be happy. Our situation is exactly the type where he excels. Just now, HoylandOwl said: You didn't need to post it twice to make your point mate. 🙂 And, technically it is 10 games. In all competitions. Maybe he meant 8 home and 8 away? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Winco said: Fuck me. obsessed. Not really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: You didn't need to post it twice to make your point mate. 🙂 And, technically it is 10 games. In all competitions. I know it was an error😀 I did say league games. Cup games were free shots almost like pre-season games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyOwl Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 56 minutes ago, Owling_Wolf said: Ditto, Hap, apart from the bit about arson. I’m more mad that I come back on this forum after all the abuse. I’m absolutely fuming mi daughter (14) had just realised what being a wednesdayite is all about so every cloud 😡😡😡 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 30 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: I know it was an error😀 I did say league games. Cup games were free shots almost like pre-season games. Free shots. AKA ones we should win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 16 minutes ago, HappyOwl said: I’m more mad that I come back on this forum after all the abuse. I’m absolutely fuming mi daughter (14) had just realised what being a wednesdayite is all about so every cloud 😡😡😡 HappyOwl. Back being happy. 🙂 Welcome back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: HappyOwl. Back being happy. 🙂 Welcome back. 🙂👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted September 23, 2023 Author Share Posted September 23, 2023 More Mulis to be honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laceups Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: Looks like Steven Gerrard in a German porno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Andyben said: More Mulis to be honest In Jos, Monk, Pulis and now Xisco he certainly has a talent in picking some right shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Laceups said: Looks like Steven Gerrard in a German porno Probably more penetration than our attackers And the defence needs stiffening And the midfield is impotent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 33 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: Free shots. AKA ones we should win? Of course. Just that given the late start and wholesale changes, the cup games were always going to be more experimental.... a chance to try things and players without the white hot pressure of the league games (IMO) Anyway I originally said 10 league games and we need to be seeing progress.... I've changed my mind - 8 league games is enough. He needs to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: Of course. Just that given the late start and wholesale changes, the cup games were always going to be more experimental.... a chance to try things and players without the white hot pressure of the league games (IMO) Anyway I originally said 10 league games and we need to be seeing progress.... I've changed my mind - 8 league games is enough. He needs to go. Yeah, I know what you're saying. I did have some sympathy for him at the start, and I got the whole 'trust in the process' stuff. It made sense THEN.. But that's what pre season games are for.... Allowances are made for mistakes, lack of cohesion with new players coming in, new systems etc. But, after a few games/weeks, you expect to see more patterns of play appearing, a sense of direction. Suppose we do have both now though... We see patterns of absolute shite, and the direction is back down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 55 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: Yeah, I know what you're saying. I did have some sympathy for him at the start, and I got the whole 'trust in the process' stuff. It made sense THEN.. But that's what pre season games are for.... Allowances are made for mistakes, lack of cohesion with new players coming in, new systems etc. But, after a few games/weeks, you expect to see more patterns of play appearing, a sense of direction. Suppose we do have both now though... We see patterns of absolute shite, and the direction is back down. Yes, no argument from me there. It really is proper bobbar. Got to go before it's too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank_Owl2,0 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Sympathy to those making the long trail back. I didn’t watch it today. I’ve already decided the situation needs to change, even though like others I recognised XM needed time given the lateness of his appointment and the squad being put together. At the moment though it’s like watching a slow motion train crash. I don’t think we have a fantastic squad but I do think a good experienced manager that is prepared to be pragmatic could get a tune of the squad we have. DC needs to decide, would you rather have pragmatic football that keeps us in this league or a failed experiment trying to play tipatapa football with a squad that isn’t capable. He also needs to think about what he is prepared to pay for a coach that can change our fortunes. Having said that, I do have a small amount of sympathy for him because of how things turned out when he appointed Bruce and Pulis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank_Owl2,0 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Just watched the sky short highlights. My god talk about amateur dramatics for the pen. If you saw those highlights you could be forgiven for thinking we were a bit unlucky on the balance of the chances to lose 3-0! So Not having seen the game I suspect many of you would beg to differ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, Tank_Owl2,0 said: Just watched the sky short highlights. My god talk about amateur dramatics for the pen. If you saw those highlights you could be forgiven for thinking we were a bit unlucky on the balance of the chances to lose 3-0! So Not having seen the game I suspect many of you would beg to differ. Dramatic yes, being pulled back, yet diving forward. BUT... He was grabbed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Local journos hammering DC now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: Local journos hammering DC now. Needs to act now. Xisco out and a new man in, in days, not his usual 3 to 4 weeks of fannying before unveiling an unknown punt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 23 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said: Local journos hammering DC now. Joe Crann is a **** 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EBRA Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Penalty right in front of me - soft yes, but he did grab him. No complaints .. well not about that incident anyway. Awful to watch today - but we can’t afford to ditch him without a man lined up to take over as I don’t think we have the luxury of allowing us to drift under a caretaker whilst Hillsborough implodes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 3 hours ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: Kinnell! Hasn't he got enough going wrong at the moment? 😖 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 4 hours ago, HoylandOwl said: Watch this...... Laughing when he's told people were chanting for him to leave. I'd better not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Owl Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Once again, another shambles of a performance. £50 quid match day tickets for this shower of rubbish!!! Expensive tickets gets you better players they say, oh do shut up. Evidence here suggests not. This manager (if you can call him a manager that is) is making Alan Irvine look like Arsene Wenger. Can't defend, can't attack, can't pass, its an embarrassment. He stays till the end of the season, we'll be lucky to get double figures at this rate. Utter fraud of a manager, who has had us outplayed by league two sides at Hillsborough let alone championship sides If he's not gone after the Sunderland game (providing he's still here), then we may as well write off the season and start preparing for league one because that's where we're going 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExile Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 13 hours ago, KrolMong said: We’ve got a coach who isn’t doing any coaching and is making Jos and Monk look like Sir Alex and Pep. We’ve signed a group of players who are simply not up to this level which is added to a group of players from last season who are not good enough for this level, and we have a forward line that is categorically not good enough for this division. You add them all together and you have a team that a fully deserving of being bottom of the league, because every team we have played this season has had extended spells of dominance. I maintained throughout the window that we needed proven Championship quality, and we needed to spend big on a striker. We did neither. The investment in the squad is down to the owner and his advisors. The players we have signed is down to the coach, the owner and his advisors, and the way we are playing, is down to the coach, his staff and the players. None of it is working. It’s a shambles. We did need this and I agree but we have brought in players with a fair amount of championship experience in Buckley, Hendrick, Diaby, Fletcher, Bernard. Add to that existing experience in Bannan, Windass, Ihiekwe, Smith, Byers and Gregory. So not all complete newbies and whilst they may not be top players at this level they are on a par with the bottom sides who are looking more credible than us and that is down to the manager. There is just a clear mismatch between what this manager needed and what the squad actually is and that’s where the blame likes with Chansiri but he needs to now rectify it and fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 13 minutes ago, TheExile said: We did need this and I agree but we have brought in players with a fair amount of championship experience in Buckley, Hendrick, Diaby, Fletcher, Bernard. Add to that existing experience in Bannan, Windass, Ihiekwe, Smith, Byers and Gregory. So not all complete newbies and whilst they may not be top players at this level they are on a par with the bottom sides who are looking more credible than us and that is down to the manager. There is just a clear mismatch between what this manager needed and what the squad actually is and that’s where the blame likes with Chansiri but he needs to now rectify it and fast Players with championship experience, yes. But by seemingly being asked to play in an unfamiliar way, which negates the experience almost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 10 hours ago, HoylandOwl said: Local journos hammering DC now. There are varying opinions on here for sure, but I don't disagree with these sentiments. You already have 3 weeks less prep time as a result of the play offs, the positivity and momentum ordinarily carries you for a few weeks and hopefully new signings have consolidated. I mean if there was a list of things not to do on gaining promotion, then we have ticked most. And no hiding that Chansiri is responsible for all of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: There are varying opinions on here for sure, but I don't disagree with these sentiments. You already have 3 weeks less prep time as a result of the play offs, the positivity and momentum ordinarily carries you for a few weeks and hopefully new signings have consolidated. I mean if there was a list of things not to do on gaining promotion, then we have ticked most. And no hiding that Chansiri is responsible for all of that I can’t disagree with you MK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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