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2 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said:

XM: It's important that I believe in the players. I know we need to improve. I know right now we don't have the quality but I know how hard they work. I'll continue until my last day. When I arrived it was not an easy situation.

 

This comment from him has tipped me right over the top. 

We don't have the quality..... YOU BROUGHT THE PLAYERS IN.

I'll continue till my last day..... I HOPE YOU'VE HAD IT.

When I arrived it was not an easy situation..... 

ZERO accountability for the situation the team find themselves in. 

Get him gone. Absolute clown.

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We’ve got a coach who isn’t doing any coaching and is making Jos and Monk look like Sir Alex and Pep. We’ve signed a group of players who are simply not up to this level which is added to a group of players from last season who are not good enough for this level, and we have a forward line that is categorically not good enough for this division.

You add them all together and you have a team that a fully deserving of being bottom of the league, because every team we have played this season has had extended spells of dominance.

I maintained throughout the window that we needed proven Championship quality, and we needed to spend big on a striker. We did neither. The investment in the squad is down to the owner and his advisors. The players we have signed is down to the coach, the owner and his advisors, and the way we are playing, is down to the coach, his staff and the players. None of it is working.

It’s a shambles.

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I said at the start of the season he shouldn't  be judged until after 10 league games. I now think it should be 8. Time to go but doubt Chansiri  can afford the payoff for him and all his staff.

If Warnock were to be unveiled as boss on Monday on a short contract contract I'd be happy. Our situation is exactly the type where he excels.

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5 minutes ago, KrolMong said:

We’ve got a coach who isn’t doing any coaching and is making Jos and Monk look like Sir Alex and Pep. We’ve signed a group of players who are simply not up to this level which is added to a group of players from last season who are not good enough for this level, and we have a forward line that is categorically not good enough for this division.

You add them all together and you have a team that a fully deserving of being bottom of the league, because every team we have played this season has had extended spells of dominance.

I maintained throughout the window that we needed proven Championship quality, and we needed to spend big on a striker. We did neither. The investment in the squad is down to the owner and his advisors. The players we have signed is down to the coach, the owner and his advisors, and the way we are playing, is down to the coach, his staff and the players. None of it is working.

It’s a shambles.

But apart from that mate, we should be OK yeah?

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2 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said:

I said at the start of the season he shouldn't  be judged until after 10 league games. I now think it should be 8. Time to go but doubt Chansiri  can afford the payoff for him and all his staff.

If Warnock were to be unveiled as boss on Monday on a short contract contract I'd be happy. Our situation is exactly the type where he excels.

Fuck me.

obsessed.

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I said at the start of the season he shouldn't  be judged until after 10 league games. I now think it should be 8. Time to go but doubt Chansiri  can afford the payoff for him and all his staff.

If Warnock were to be unveiled as boss on Monday on a short contract contract I'd be happy. Our situation is exactly the type where he excels.

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1 minute ago, Teddy Nickelarse said:

I said at the start of the season he shouldn't  be judged until after 10 league games. I now think it should be 8. Time to go but doubt Chansiri  can afford the payoff for him and all his staff.

If Warnock were to be unveiled as boss on Monday on a short contract contract I'd be happy. Our situation is exactly the type where he excels.

You didn't need to post it twice to make your point mate. 🙂 

And, technically it is 10 games. In all competitions.

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2 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said:

I said at the start of the season he shouldn't  be judged until after 10 league games. I now think it should be 8. Time to go but doubt Chansiri  can afford the payoff for him and all his staff.

If Warnock were to be unveiled as boss on Monday on a short contract contract I'd be happy. Our situation is exactly the type where he excels.

 

1 minute ago, Teddy Nickelarse said:

I said at the start of the season he shouldn't  be judged until after 10 league games. I now think it should be 8. Time to go but doubt Chansiri  can afford the payoff for him and all his staff.

If Warnock were to be unveiled as boss on Monday on a short contract contract I'd be happy. Our situation is exactly the type where he excels.

 

Just now, HoylandOwl said:

You didn't need to post it twice to make your point mate. 🙂 

And, technically it is 10 games. In all competitions.

Maybe he meant 8 home and 8 away?

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33 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said:

Free shots. AKA ones we should win?

Of course. Just that given the late start and wholesale changes,  the cup games were always going to be more experimental.... a chance to try things and players without the white hot pressure of the league games (IMO) 

Anyway I originally said 10 league games and we need to be seeing progress.... I've changed my mind - 8 league games is enough. He needs to go. 

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4 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said:

Of course. Just that given the late start and wholesale changes,  the cup games were always going to be more experimental.... a chance to try things and players without the white hot pressure of the league games (IMO) 

Anyway I originally said 10 league games and we need to be seeing progress.... I've changed my mind - 8 league games is enough. He needs to go. 

Yeah, I know what you're saying. I did have some sympathy for him at the start, and I got the whole 'trust in the process' stuff. It made sense THEN.. But that's what pre season games are for.... Allowances are made for mistakes, lack of cohesion with new players coming in, new systems etc. But, after a few games/weeks, you expect to see more patterns of play appearing, a sense of direction. 

Suppose we do have both now though... We see patterns of absolute shite, and the direction is back down.

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55 minutes ago, HoylandOwl said:

Yeah, I know what you're saying. I did have some sympathy for him at the start, and I got the whole 'trust in the process' stuff. It made sense THEN.. But that's what pre season games are for.... Allowances are made for mistakes, lack of cohesion with new players coming in, new systems etc. But, after a few games/weeks, you expect to see more patterns of play appearing, a sense of direction. 

Suppose we do have both now though... We see patterns of absolute shite, and the direction is back down.

Yes, no argument from me there. It really is proper bobbar. Got to go before it's  too late. 

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Sympathy to those making the long trail back.

I didn’t watch it today. I’ve already decided the situation needs to change, even though like others I recognised XM needed time given the lateness of his appointment and the squad being put together.

At the moment though it’s like watching a slow motion train crash.

I don’t think we have a fantastic squad but I do think a good experienced manager that is prepared to be pragmatic could get a tune of the squad we have.

DC needs to decide, would you rather have pragmatic football that keeps us in this league or a failed experiment trying to play tipatapa football with a squad that isn’t capable.

He also needs to think about what he is prepared to pay for a coach that can change our fortunes. Having said that, I do have a small amount of sympathy for him because of how things turned out when he appointed Bruce and Pulis.

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14 minutes ago, Tank_Owl2,0 said:

Just watched the sky short highlights. My god talk about amateur dramatics for the pen. 
If you saw those highlights you could be forgiven for thinking we were a bit unlucky on the balance of the chances to lose 3-0! 
So Not having seen the game I suspect many of you would beg to differ.

Dramatic yes, being pulled back, yet diving forward.  BUT... He was grabbed.

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Penalty right in front of me - soft yes, but he did grab him. 
No complaints .. well not about that incident anyway.

Awful to watch today - but we can’t afford to ditch him without a man lined up to take over as I don’t think we have the luxury of allowing us to drift under a caretaker whilst Hillsborough implodes.

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Once again, another shambles of a performance. £50 quid match day tickets for this shower of rubbish!!! Expensive tickets gets you better players they say, oh do shut up. Evidence here suggests not.

This manager (if you can call him a manager that is) is making Alan Irvine look like Arsene Wenger. Can't defend, can't attack, can't pass, its an embarrassment. He stays till the end of the season, we'll be lucky to get double figures at this rate. Utter fraud of a manager, who has had us outplayed by league two sides at Hillsborough let alone championship sides

If he's not gone after the Sunderland game (providing he's still here), then we may as well write off the season and start preparing for league one because that's where we're going

 

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13 hours ago, KrolMong said:

We’ve got a coach who isn’t doing any coaching and is making Jos and Monk look like Sir Alex and Pep. We’ve signed a group of players who are simply not up to this level which is added to a group of players from last season who are not good enough for this level, and we have a forward line that is categorically not good enough for this division.

You add them all together and you have a team that a fully deserving of being bottom of the league, because every team we have played this season has had extended spells of dominance.

I maintained throughout the window that we needed proven Championship quality, and we needed to spend big on a striker. We did neither. The investment in the squad is down to the owner and his advisors. The players we have signed is down to the coach, the owner and his advisors, and the way we are playing, is down to the coach, his staff and the players. None of it is working.

It’s a shambles.

We did need this and I agree but we have brought in players with a fair amount of championship experience in Buckley, Hendrick, Diaby, Fletcher, Bernard. Add to that existing experience in Bannan, Windass, Ihiekwe, Smith, Byers and Gregory. So not all complete newbies and whilst they may not be top players at this level they are on a par with the bottom sides who are looking more credible than us and that is down to the manager. There is just a clear mismatch between what this manager needed and what the squad actually is and that’s where the blame likes with Chansiri but he needs to now rectify it and fast 

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13 minutes ago, TheExile said:

We did need this and I agree but we have brought in players with a fair amount of championship experience in Buckley, Hendrick, Diaby, Fletcher, Bernard. Add to that existing experience in Bannan, Windass, Ihiekwe, Smith, Byers and Gregory. So not all complete newbies and whilst they may not be top players at this level they are on a par with the bottom sides who are looking more credible than us and that is down to the manager. There is just a clear mismatch between what this manager needed and what the squad actually is and that’s where the blame likes with Chansiri but he needs to now rectify it and fast 

Players with championship experience, yes. But by seemingly being asked to play in an unfamiliar way, which negates the experience almost.

 

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10 hours ago, HoylandOwl said:

There are varying opinions on here for sure, but I don't disagree with these sentiments. 

You already have 3 weeks less prep time as a result of the play offs, the positivity and momentum ordinarily carries you for a few weeks and hopefully new signings have consolidated. 

I mean if there was a list of things not to do on gaining promotion, then we have ticked most. And no hiding that Chansiri is responsible for all of that

 

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2 minutes ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said:

There are varying opinions on here for sure, but I don't disagree with these sentiments. 

You already have 3 weeks less prep time as a result of the play offs, the positivity and momentum ordinarily carries you for a few weeks and hopefully new signings have consolidated. 

I mean if there was a list of things not to do on gaining promotion, then we have ticked most. And no hiding that Chansiri is responsible for all of that

 

I can’t disagree with you MK.

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