Andyben Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) There was an absolute necessity to get out of Div 3 last season. We could have gone under if we hadn't. Short termisn works as ultimately its given us Röhl Edited January 16 by Andyben 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExile Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Smith has his limitations but he’s still scored a similar amount to anyone else this season without even really playing. Hull also wanted to sign him when we did. I think all teams need that option of a forward for certain games. I like him as a player but I can understand why we might move him on if he’s expensive and not playing. It would just be better if we still had the option of using him again if we went down. Perfect for the spine of the team in L1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercockle Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, TheExile said: Smith has his limitations but he’s still scored a similar amount to anyone else this season without even really playing. Hull also wanted to sign him when we did. I think all teams need that option of a forward for certain games. I like him as a player but I can understand why we might move him on if he’s expensive and not playing. It would just be better if we still had the option of using him again if we went down. Perfect for the spine of the team in L1 I’d prefer for us to plan for staying in Championship than keep him in case we go down. Getting his wages off the books gives Rohl more options. If we kept him and went down, I still don’t think Rohl would use him. We didn’t play a style that suited him last season (not in the way that Rotherham did); this season even less so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExile Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 39 minutes ago, Supercockle said: I’d prefer for us to plan for staying in Championship than keep him in case we go down. Getting his wages off the books gives Rohl more options. If we kept him and went down, I still don’t think Rohl would use him. We didn’t play a style that suited him last season (not in the way that Rotherham did); this season even less so. True. If a loan freed up wages for another loan that might work and I agree we need to try and stop up. But there’s a lot of uncertainty if we do go down. Would that coaching team stay? The only person obliged to would be a proven striker still under contract. We’d need experienced spine to help some promising younger players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 10 minutes ago, TheExile said: True. If a loan freed up wages for another loan that might work and I agree we need to try and stop up. But there’s a lot of uncertainty if we do go down. Would that coaching team stay? The only person obliged to would be a proven striker still under contract. We’d need experienced spine to help some promising younger players. Do you want the towel back that you've just chucked in? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExile Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) 1 hour ago, Reesh said: Do you want the towel back that you've just chucked in? We can stay up and I’d like to think we will. But a lack of considering what might come next has been an issue at the club for a while. We could play well for the rest of the season and still need a result at Sunderland thanks to Xisco. 20 goal a season strikers are hard to find at any level so hedging our bets is the best strategy and if/when we stay up then move players like that on. Edited January 16 by TheExile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Dan Gore available to loan from Man U. Would be an upgrade on Coventry and wouldn't cost a slot in the 25 man squad list. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 18 hours ago, TheExile said: We can stay up and I’d like to think we will. But a lack of considering what might come next has been an issue at the club for a while. We could play well for the rest of the season and still need a result at Sunderland thanks to Xisco. 20 goal a season strikers are hard to find at any level so hedging our bets is the best strategy and if/when we stay up then move players like that on. Not thinking about what might come next isn’t something that I think DR will suffer from, like DM clearly did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Although… Alan Nixon says that Scott Hogan is one of three strikers we’re considering signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaconowl Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 3 hours ago, HoylandOwl said: Although… Alan Nixon says that Scott Hogan is one of three strikers we’re considering signing. Probably end up getting Hulk Hogan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Alex Miller reporting interest in 20-year-old Arsenal forward Mika Biereth https://t.co/gVuiYD2c7k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCraigsOwl Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Been quite impressed with him during his time with Motherwell. Seems to have something about him and knows where the goals are. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 10 hours ago, Andyben said: Dan Gore available to loan from Man U. Would be an upgrade on Coventry and wouldn't cost a slot in the 25 man squad list. He's been in there match day squad a few times and been on twice. We'd have to sign him as an u21 loan for him not to be counted in our 25. It's been done before but it's dodgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 He's available, same as Hannibal who went to INEOS's other team Sevilla. Looks like to L1 but he'd be wasted there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 2 hours ago, Tylluan said: He's been in there match day squad a few times and been on twice. We'd have to sign him as an u21 loan for him not to be counted in our 25. It's been done before but it's dodgy Hughill would have been good too, but if Gore goes to L1 then I'd start talks with Man U about taking both for a full season in July. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl71 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 11 hours ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: Alex Miller reporting interest in 20-year-old Arsenal forward Mika Biereth https://t.co/gVuiYD2c7k This guy rates him… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Ipswich want Neymarv apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelters Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 7 minutes ago, Reesh said: Ipswich want Neymarv apparently Did Wes Burns write in with an offer? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Strange one for Ipswich, unless they have injuries down the left. If this is part of shuffling our pack no issue with it. It only becomes as issue if no replacement comes in as we are pretty light in that position as it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 26 minutes ago, mkowl said: Strange one for Ipswich, unless they have injuries down the left. If this is part of shuffling our pack no issue with it. It only becomes as issue if no replacement comes in as we are pretty light in that position as it is Getting rid of arguably the best player form wise in the last 6 weeks is a stupid move. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Reesh Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 9 minutes ago, Bob Petrie said: The Beadle influence kicking in I hope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Vasquez RAUS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 A suggestion on FB that 1m bid from Ipswich has been rejection for MJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) Beat me to it. Playing well but anything north of that I'd snatch their hands off and reinvest in a youger left sided player. Edited January 18 by Teddy Nickelarse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 3 out now with Vasquez. Get the Arsenal youngster in and the window is starting to shape up positively with 2 weeks still to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 If we an get £1m for a 33 yo I'd snap their hand off 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 https://twitter.com/alex_crook Ipswich might pay ostensibly over the odds if it helps them get promoted. If this bloke is right we are baulking because DR sees him as a key player in our survival fight. If we get a suggested (in some quarters) £1.3m and invest well in a younger version then possibly win/win for both clubs. Would be one in the eye for those that panned DC (including local media) for declining Derby's free transfer attempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 2 minutes ago, Andyben said: If we an get £1m for a 33 yo I'd snap their hand off My first thoughts too. Rumoured that Ipswich are still keen though and talks ongoing. The arbiter would surely be whether we can use the money to get a younger left sided replacement of required quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Surely if there was a younger, better version of Neymarv available for c£1.3m Ipswich would be buying him? The only reason to sell is that we have a player we think can come in and perform better or Johnson doesn't suit how we want to play and we can use the money to strengthen another area. I'd have their hand off for £1.3m, but can't imagine we've been offered anything like that, probably an extremely zero somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 49 minutes ago, Snap said: Beadell even. Beadle is the goalie. Reesh's age is getting to him. Thinks our Keeper is doing our recruitment. Saying that it would be a step up from the Chairmans Son. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 10 minutes ago, Hirstys 12th Pint said: Reesh's age is getting to him. Thinks our Keeper is doing our recruitment. Saying that it would be a step up from the Chairmans Son. The Chairman's son who you follow on social media? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: https://twitter.com/alex_crook Ipswich might pay ostensibly over the odds if it helps them get promoted. If this bloke is right we are baulking because DR sees him as a key player in our survival fight. If we get a suggested (in some quarters) £1.3m and invest well in a younger version then possibly win/win for both clubs. Would be one in the eye for those that panned DC (including local media) for declining Derby's free transfer attempt. Do you know what ostensibly means? It's an odd fit here. Edited January 18 by Skamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 32 minutes ago, Reesh said: The Chairman's son who you follow on social media? I deny that accusation. PS. It's his Daughter 😀😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Been told that Ourselves, Stoke, and Coventry have all been knocked back, by Liverpool. when asking about left back Owen Beck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 That'll be Owen Beck and forth all month that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelters Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 To Owen Beck is RoY Hodgson’s favourite ever episode of Only Fools and Horses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, Skamp said: Do you know what ostensibly means? It's an odd fit here. Yes. 😀 For clarity many might say that on the face of it £1.3m is too much for a 33 year old of his quality. If ipswich have a weakness in this area that Johnson might plug and help them achieve promotion then they'd likely consider it money well spent even if they then offloaded him in the summer at a significant loss. Semantics anyway. Edited January 18 by Teddy Nickelarse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcore Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 What happened to Matt Penney? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 9 hours ago, Reesh said: Getting rid of arguably the best player form wise in the last 6 weeks is a stupid move. Not getting rid of players for decent money when we can eg Forestieri has arguably been more stupid a policy over the years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 5 hours ago, Andyben said: If we an get £1m for a 33 yo I'd snap their hand off I’m with you. Marv has been good recently and I rate him, but with his age, and that I can’t see him getting another year anyway. I’d say thanks Marv, go enjoy the next few years elsewhere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Star saying no fee offered yet for MJ. Quoted " ipswich sources saying they would be prepared to pay a nominal fee" however. Nominal fee for a player in form and fitter than at any time since joining us. No thanks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 The S*n are saying that they expect the Johnson deal to be done within 48 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 If Marv's going then someone has to be incoming. Daniel Gazdag has already been mentioned on here. 27 year old right footed attacking midfielder who can also play as a 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billysboy Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 2 hours ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: Star saying no fee offered yet for MJ. Quoted " ipswich sources saying they would be prepared to pay a nominal fee" however. Nominal fee for a player in form and fitter than at any time since joining us. No thanks. Should tell em to get fucked, grassing bastards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelters Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Every player has a price. And I would suggest £1m is more than the price in this case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canterburyowl Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 11 hours ago, Bob Petrie said: Off to Sturm Graz apparently... according to Stir 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExile Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 there’s no way we’ve been offered 1m for Johnson. Ipswich have been keen for a while though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCraigsOwl Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 17 hours ago, Tylluan said: Been told that Ourselves, Stoke, and Coventry have all been knocked back, by Liverpool. when asking about left back Owen Beck. Tricky wee ****. Looked quite flashy going forward while at Dundee. Sportscene didn't show much of his defensive game though, so can't really comment on that. Got a Hibs player sent off with the most pathetically lightweight 'fall over when brushed' a few weeks back. I didn't know whether to declare him a cheat or enjoy a wry smile, due to it being a Hibby on the receiving end. In the interests of fair play, I decided he was a typical scouser. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowl Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Sadly the one thing about a transfer window is our knuckle dragging element of our fan base can use it as "lets kick Chansiri" I mean its usually along the lines of "we've brought nobdy in, he's not having n'other penny from me" Arsewipes they really are 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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