Skamp Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 7 hours ago, HoylandOwl said: Oh and.... Their manager, Kieran McKenna says.... The first goal was special from us. But, we're time wasting shithouses. I'd come on here to say that Smith's goal was a thing of beauty both during the build up to the cross to the header. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 And as for time wasting. How many years have we witnessed other teams doing it to us? BTW, it's game management and thank fuck we're finally mastering it. Well, it's game management when we're doing it. Time wasting if ... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, Skamp said: And as for time wasting. How many years have we witnessed other teams doing it to us? BTW, it's game management and thank fuck we're finally mastering it. Well, it's game management when we're doing it. Time wasting if ... This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank_Owl2,0 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 I’ve seen a vlog that an Ipswich fan did high in the stand behind where the pen was given and the part when Johnson fouls there lad looks completely a non incident. There lad is pulling Johnson back from going to the ball Johnson shrugs him/ pushes him away without taking his eye off the ball and their lad goes down like he’s been polaxed, in what I can only described as trying to make something out of nothing. The fact they took so long over it suggests they weren’t sure and probably couldn’t figure out which of our players actually committed the foul, which might be the problem for us. However, if the EFL decide they can use home fans footage of incidents that seems to me like a very slippery slope to head down - given the ability of people to manipulate videos these days. So, shouldn’t have been a pen because it was an Ipswich player being a drama queen and trying to make something from nothing and if Johnson is retrospectively banned the club need to push back big time, which on recent form would seem likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 4 hours ago, KrolMong said: The person who would have made the biggest difference would have been Malik Wilks. Because he drifts wide, he would have occupied one of the Ipswich wide players. Our lack of attacking options on the bench hurt us a bit. 4 hours ago, Owling_Wolf said: Absolutely agree with the last bit. First time I've missed Wilks! We could be very short of players for next week or two, especially if we get shit over Johnson. Might have to use young 'uns off the bench. What was the point of Shipston and Fusire being on the bench if they weren't an option to be used? Fusire could have played the Wilks role and with a confidence born out of youth and a good performance at Fleetwood. We could have even thrown Brown further forward (as we did at points last season) to inject some pace and push one of full backs back. We didn't do either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank_Owl2,0 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Reesh said: Or we could be fine as James and Gregory likely back Tuesday. I’d agree, from what DM said post match they should be in contention but equally I can see him being careful with them and anyone else that is teetering on the edge of fatigue or an injury. Yes we want to put our strongest team out on the pitch but losing a player for one games is better than losing them for the season. The next two games would be easier to accommodate a player that’s not a first choice player compared to when we play the dingles and Notlob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted February 12, 2023 Author Share Posted February 12, 2023 A grown man has just typed Notlob. Jesus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyben Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Isn't it noblot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Andyben said: Isn't it noblot No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M42Owl Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Skamp said: And as for time wasting. How many years have we witnessed other teams doing it to us? BTW, it's game management and thank fuck we're finally mastering it. Well, it's game management when we're doing it. Time wasting if ... If it's passing from full back to centre back to full back and repeat and repeat, or keeping it in the corner: it's game management. As is kicking it into row Z. If it's feigning injury or taking 30 seconds over a goal kick: that's time wasting. I don't think we do a lot of the later, especially in the absence of Stockdale and Paterson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank_Owl2,0 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Reesh said: A grown man has just typed Notlob. Jesus. Im entitled, I lived there for 4 years - so have my reasons! What Jesus got to do with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank_Owl2,0 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 There’s a video clip on the WTID twitter which shows the penalty incident. Johnson looks to elbow the Ipswich player but it looks like it’s more like in his ribs, not in his face and it’s more like a shrug their player off. So it could be argued a pen was warranted if a player pushing someone off that is trying to grab you. Bloody officials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 12 hours ago, Skamp said: And as for time wasting. How many years have we witnessed other teams doing it to us? BTW, it's game management and thank fuck we're finally mastering it. Well, it's game management when we're doing it. Time wasting if ... My only comment on that is Vaulks got a stupid yellow before HT doing said game management. With both him and then Byers on yellows from early on in the 2nd it helped them retain possession a lot easier and thus detrimental Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Tank_Owl2,0 said: Im entitled, I lived there for 4 years - so have my reasons! What Jesus got to do with it? Thought it identified as susej these days Even our dog knows this, when asked where he found a ball he said its susej's That's Life Edited February 13, 2023 by mkowlthesexynewversion 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 As Marv seems to be being trialled by fancam. Any images of Hirst giving the egg to Vaulks' cheek? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) It would have been interesting to see the Lino's decision if Johnson had hit the floor as Burns wrapped his arms round him but, as a defender and where it happened you can't take that chance it'll be seen. In today's game you can't throw your arms out as it gives the officials the opportunity to make a decision. Johnson should have broke free, then bided his time and twatted him further up the pitch. Edited February 13, 2023 by Tylluan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAL Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 On 12/02/2023 at 08:55, mkowlthesexynewversion said: Well a decision was made in game, the one official camera its not clear what happened. Clearly the crowd angles show it was a bit naughty, but that would be VAR on another level. Johnson was stupid as it could have been a red if the ref had seen it properly I like this squad and that we are tougher these days, but not when it's rash. The stupid free kicks we give away around the box have cost us big time once we come up against decent quality Sorry pal, had to wait until on the PC to reply, it's a nightmare trying to do it on the mobile. Don't know whether anybody has said this but, like you say... It was seen by the officials and a penalty given, with no following card. So it should be the end of the matter there and then, with no other process to follow because as the law makers say, we cannot look at the matter if a decision has been made by the officials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheffieldblue Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Except were Wednesday are concerned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Marvin Johnson charged with improper / violent conduct at Ipswich. Trial by Fan Cam then !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 A potentially dangerous precedent has been set. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bricat Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 The club should challenge this. Decent lawyer could tear EFL a new arseole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bricat Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 This should be challenged. No precedent for it. Not mentioned in laws of the game. It is an offence though to film live action at a game without prior proven permission so condoning a crime using it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkowlthesexynewversion Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 It is bollocks because the main camera at the ground does not really show it clearly. The defence will be the officials "saw" the incident but not who did it, and the TV evidence merely confirms the identity. But it is a very dangerous precedent if this is any way being determined by social media. Because let's be clear we have several thousand more phones with phones that could capture incidents. What is to stop me rocking up at Plymouth trying to film potential incidents and then sending them on to the FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bricat Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Better get EFL officials doing naughties, brown envelopes etc., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Should charge that fanny for having a topknot and play acting. rubbing his chin near Ref when it didn't even look it was in that part of him. This big club of ours getting all the decisions again eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted February 16, 2023 Author Share Posted February 16, 2023 19 minutes ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: I’ve no issue with it, was always expecting it but I think there’s a chance they’ll not find the evidence conclusive enough for the charge he faces This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted February 16, 2023 Author Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, mkowlthesexynewversion said: It is bollocks because the main camera at the ground does not really show it clearly. The defence will be the officials "saw" the incident but not who did it, and the TV evidence merely confirms the identity. But it is a very dangerous precedent if this is any way being determined by social media. Because let's be clear we have several thousand more phones with phones that could capture incidents. What is to stop me rocking up at Plymouth trying to film potential incidents and then sending them on to the FA. Cos you're not a sad cu..... Yeah good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Neville Facking Bartos said: I’ve no issue with it, was always expecting it but I think there’s a chance they’ll not find the evidence conclusive enough for the charge he faces When have you ever known anyone walk away from a disciplinary meeting Scot free? He's already been charged with violent and/or improper conduct so they must be confident with the evidence they've got. If we're successful against the violent charge then they just hit him with the lesser improper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling_Wolf Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Absolutely, utterly scandalous. Should have obviously been a free kick to us for him being repeatedly pulled back. All he tried to do - as shown by the fan clip behind the goal - was shrug off the fouler. He never even turned round to see where he was! This is nothing more than an opportunist, illicit 'punishment' for having got up the noses of the authorities for showing them up over their minions' rule breaking conduct in denying the goal properly scored against Plymouth, and how they reached that other, scandalous, wrong decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyOwl Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Absolute bollox hope Ipswich fuck up in the playoffs tractor shaggin twats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyOwl Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 The point that people on social media etc are missing as they don’t have knowledge of Fa disciplinaries is that you are guilty until proven innocent. So they have charged with the offence and we will not get away with it as it happened and the efl have charged so no defence will work so ban incoming Im afraid. it’s the same in grassroots and I have experience of it. Still considering writing a book 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylluan Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Happy's right. Guilty until proved innocent. Johnson will get done on 'probability' just like Forestieri did. Burns went down and a penalty was awarded so Marvin probably did something to cause it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCraigsOwl Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 No point in challenging it. If this charge was dropped you can guarantee a referee will send him off in an upcoming match, for tripping over his boot laces or another equally non-sendoffable offence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 They ‘didn’t know who it was’ shows how absolutely absurd it is too. While there was a decision made at the game, they got a pen, the officials saw enough to deem it a penalty but the lino couldn’t see who it was? How did he see it happen in the first place then with any certainty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) Marv should request the evidence and if a gap toothed yokel rolls up with his sister girlfriend holding an iPhone he should release the info to the public. He'd get an extra ban but trial by some sore loser in the crowd is taking the piss. Guilty or not we cant't be judging on fucking fan cam. Nowt gets said when ITV/ BBC/ Sky discuss similar. It's definitely a mark on our card for speaking out about big screen VAR Edited February 17, 2023 by Ozzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyOwl Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 5 hours ago, EastCraigsOwl said: No point in challenging it. If this charge was dropped you can guarantee a referee will send him off in an upcoming match, for tripping over his boot laces or another equally non-sendoffable offence. Heard somewhere that if we put in a plea of guilty today he could be banned for tomorrow. Sure that’s what was said on Twitter somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys 12th Pint Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) Not sure if posted before. Edited February 17, 2023 by Hirstys 12th Pint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted February 17, 2023 Author Share Posted February 17, 2023 44 minutes ago, HappyOwl said: Heard somewhere that if we put in a plea of guilty today he could be banned for tomorrow. Sure that’s what was said on Twitter somewhere Hence waiting til Monday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-make-marvin-johnson-appeal-decision-but-owls-boss-tight-lipped-on-fa-charge-4031917 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellsview Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 I understand Joey Barton has done something similar - posted a video of an offence against Bristol Rovers which went unpunished. Lincoln City player just got a 3 game ban because of it. https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/lincoln-city-player-banned-violent-8160833.amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoylandOwl Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 32 minutes ago, Bellsview said: I understand Joey Barton has done something similar - posted a video of an offence against Bristol Rovers which went unpunished. Lincoln City player just got a 3 game ban because of it. https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/lincoln-city-player-banned-violent-8160833.amp The difference is that it was captured from the media gantry so it was ‘official footage’, not by a fan. I see there’s nothing said by Barton about him threatening a Lincoln player live on local radio though….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyOwl Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Reesh said: Hence waiting til Monday They haven’t though thought they had put in a reply? I may be wrong first time for everything 😂😂😂 Edited February 17, 2023 by HappyOwl Sausage fingers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 There's footage of topknot elbowing Marv by the wing. Wonder if that's part of his appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted February 17, 2023 Author Share Posted February 17, 2023 35 minutes ago, HappyOwl said: They haven’t though thought they had put in a reply? I may be wrong first time for everything 😂😂😂 He had til Monday to reply, assuming we have appealed but asked for a personal hearing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reesh Posted February 18, 2023 Author Share Posted February 18, 2023 A Lincoln player was charged this week cos Barton went on twatter. Several players recently have been charged retrospectively due to clubs using their match analysis footage and raising concerns to the EFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamp Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Joey Barton. The epitome of sportsmanship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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